Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
I read a discussion last night where someone said they felt there were people mistaking their porn preferences for their sexuality. The argument was they may not actually be into the things they're watching if they were to encounter them irl because the porn experience doesn't make use of the full range of senses.
'Teledildonics' can make porn tactile, and porn that you can smell or even taste is surely just around the corner.
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
Earth calling thirdform. Come in, thirdform.

for instance, one complication with puberty blockers is that they can present difficulties if one wants to have a vaginoplasty in future, as the necessary penil tissue to construct a neovagina is not there.

This, however, does not seem to interest you, as your arguments are contradictorily based on affirming the existence of God whilst denying the biblical God. Very post-modern, and back to geniocracy we go. So what again is the problem with sterilisation according to biscuits thought?
 

mixed_biscuits

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for instance, one complication with puberty blockers is that they can present difficulties if one wants to have a vaginoplasty in future, as the necessary penil tissue to construct a neovagina is not there.

This, however, does not seem to interest you, as your arguments are contradictorily based on affirming the existence of God whilst denying the biblical God. Very post-modern, and back to geniocracy we go. So what again is the problem with sterilisation according to biscuits thought?
Why do you think labour have banned it?
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
Your comment showed that you neither understand trans nor the limits of consent for children. You're a terrible ally to either group. But sure, dig yourself a trench on the wrong side of history if you must.

I'm not an ally, so again, this means nothing to me. only you are in the business of being an ally to people, meaning you've swallowed the woke lore you claim to rebel against.
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
Just to wrench things back from abstraction, this is crucial. William Gibson's adage about the future already being here, but being unevenly distributed.

My experience of the online as something to be stepped into and out of is clearly influenced by my interfacing with it on a desktop, not having a smartphone, and rarely being around very 'online' people when I socialise. I'm assuming those here who strongly feel it's becoming increasingly real are 1) in cities and 2) using smartphones.
Yeah the uneven distribution of the future bit plays heavily into almost all the projects I'm involved with, to the point where people are regularly quoting it. So much of it is like hacking your way through uber technical conversations at the intersection of technology and business, because if the right tech product gets the right market fit, you can get the next cultural revolution.
 

sufi

lala
Thinking about how the internet dematerialises reality with tangible physical effects to the extent that:
  • only meatspace services remain on high streets - barbers, tattoos, massage, takeaways ... old jobs have transformed into delivery drones
  • Irish server farms (full of streaming drone no doubt) now use more energy than Irish people apparently
  • personal time with loved ones is spent locked into personal devices, rather than being together, especially more intimate relationships where it feels like there is more license to be in that present but absent state as you check your whatsapptiktoks. & of course everyone on the train is at it
  • "lemme jus ..." is what people say when they drop out of the conversation to get on their device, the announcment tails off as their brain embraces and is engulfed by online
  • there is this weird interpersonal glitching when you try and explain irl something that happened online, it's difficult and boring like describing a dream.
  • and the devices make it hard to share internet stuff offline "look at this thing that's happening on my tiny screen" - it's a bit shit basically. Looking at holiday snaps was always boring but is now even worse
so the internet is encroaching on reality, occupying times and spaces so that less and less of the offline reality remains? is that a thing?
 

version

Well-known member
  • personal time with loved ones is spent locked into personal devices, rather than being together, especially more intimate relationships where it feels like there is more license to be in that present but absent state as you check your whatsapptiktoks.

I haven't experienced it myself, but I've seen plenty of Americans discussing cutting off friends and family based on their being 'radicalised' online and impossible to deal with irl; the dreaded Thanksgiving dinners with Facebook Aunts and Uncles.
 

sufi

lala
I haven't experienced it myself, but I've seen plenty of Americans discussing cutting off friends and family based on their being 'radicalised' online and impossible to deal with irl; the dreaded Thanksgiving dinners with Facebook Aunts and Uncles.
i was more talking about the reduction in irl time spent together as familes/dates/mates check in to devices while physically together but yeah
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another part of that is people preferring to photograph each other than interact

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version

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i was more talking about the reduction in irl time spent together as familes/dates/mates check in to devices while physically together but yeah

I know, I was just piggybacking off your point with another example of the internet affecting the family irl.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
I haven't experienced it myself, but I've seen plenty of Americans discussing cutting off friends and family based on their being 'radicalised' online and impossible to deal with irl; the dreaded Thanksgiving dinners with Facebook Aunts and Uncles.
It's a commonplace observation, but people born before about 1970 getting onto social media en masse has been a total disaster, hasn't it?
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
It's often been suggested many of those parents who warned their kids about not believing everything they read online a few decades ago are now hoovering up everything read on Facebook with total credulity.
2016 and still true(r than ever):

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wg-

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i was more talking about the reduction in irl time spent together as familes/dates/mates check in to devices while physically together but yeah

It's not just families in the house, either, is it- you see it between couples getting a bit of food, completely ignoring eachother at the table or whatever, or that weird thing where food comes to the table and they take pictures of the plate, themselves with the plate, six pictures of them posing with a cocktail

What is your life if not a stage for the apps

There is all the instagram influencer/escort thing as well but maybe thats a different subject. Has tag your sponsor come up yet?
 

sufi

lala
It's not just families in the house, either, is it- you see it between couples getting a bit of food, completely ignoring eachother at the table or whatever, or that weird thing where food comes to the table and they take pictures of the plate, themselves with the plate, six pictures of them posing with a cocktail

What is your life if not a stage for the apps

There is all the instagram influencer/escort thing as well but maybe thats a different subject. Has tag your sponsor come up yet?
Offline Reality is shrinking
 

version

Well-known member
A couple were filming/taking photos of themselves outside my polling station the other week. Bit embarrassing seeing stuff like that in the process of being captured, like when that girl caught Sam Smith filming a TikTok.

 

shakahislop

Well-known member
was in lazy suzy (coffee shop) in JMZ train bushwick today, it's like this pretty big clean lines bright light big windows coffee shop. there's about eight tables against the wall, six places to sit on stools against the front window, and then one big shared workbench with about ten chairs in the middle. every seat was taken by someone sitting alone on a macbook. except two girls who were sat chatting to each other about trying to hook up with some barwoman. the people talking to each other were the who looked out of place. there was no other chat in the place. most people had headphones on. the girl sat next to me was making music i think.

i was there to do exactly the same thing (but on a standard issue lenovo). there's a whole category of coffee shops which are essentially workspaces. everyone has to work and that's what a lot of work is now. so much of it is online. when your livelihood is involved the online is very much real. caffeine and emails and calls, all of that produces affects which spill over into people's souls i think
 
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