Jungle

Corpsey

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
I'm kind of opposed to pastiche jungle in principle but I've got to say some of these tunes would have slotted in nicely on a set in 1994 (maybe that's an issue, cos there's nothing modern sounding about this)

 
Corpsey

Corpsey

bandz ahoy


This playlist features a lot of Tim Reaper, he's really top boy at this sound

Albeit somewhat anonymous, in the sense that I don't really detect a distinctive style of his own
 
dilbert1

dilbert1

Well-known member
Corpsey said:
I'm sure third will excoriate me for saying that though
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Disagree with you on them being against pastiche or for saying they nail the simulation? Not sure that’s so @thirdform cos hes not even keen on the sultry rnb amen heavy ragga tinged stuff, and this approximates it pretty accurately. I like the bit at 1:41 in “Outta Mind” but while both ‘bang’ they’re just really safe. And the dub siren and chat samples are cliché and repetitive. Even in ‘94 these would be good records but a little on the boring side.

Let’s sample a Dua Lipa vocal or some Top 40 instrumental snippet, throw in some humor, a wacky drum element that ‘works’ with more traditional breaks, stick your neck out a bit more with the rhythm programming, pump fake the retro sound and ridicule it with calculated risk taking, and be more synthetic/eclectic if you’re gonna ape the past. We’ve brought up Phineus before and sure he’s guilty too (ancient technology, well-worn pads, etc) but he does get weirder than a lot of his contemporaries in his drum programming I think. We don’t have to be groundbreaking or get unrecognizably difficult to listen to to escape the problem you’re describing IMO i guess people just don’t see the point in trying, if it aint (subjectively) broke don’t fix it
 
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thirdform

pass the sick bucket
oh I'm all for sultry rnb ragga ruff/smooth dialectic, I just think the amen is an easy cop out.

But to be honest with you I don't have cast iron opinions on new old jungle/garage/techno and only really assess it on a case by case basis. I mean it's club music, and inherently limited by the dj form, which tends to conservatism. Trance in some senses is the culmination of this linear dj mix logic.

I haven't listened to that Tim Reaper tune just yet.

But I'm definitely not one of those racist euros who is aghast at a ragga sample, far from it. weirdos.



 
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thirdform

pass the sick bucket
notice how it crushes everything in its wake through it being carnevelesque.

that's the thing with ragga jungle, it works best when it's about huge throngs of bodies in the streets of north-east london and Essex. hermetic heartfordshire experimentalism this ain't.
 
Murphy

Murphy

cat malogen
a mix which might be a bit bright for late era hardcore and slightly chilled sprinkled with more d&b leaning sounds for ‘peak hours’ tunes but for a summer afternoon at work where the weather can’t make its mind up? go on then

 
william_kent

william_kent

Well-known member
Corpsey said:


This playlist features a lot of Tim Reaper, he's really top boy at this sound

Albeit somewhat anonymous, in the sense that I don't really detect a distinctive style of his own
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careful with your language, he is lurking!

edit: you did call him a "top boy at this sound" so anyone would forgive you for the "anonymous" slur... ( see first edit below in my next post - it's all love )

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edit: he was looking at the late 90s tech step thread, so you dodged a bullet there
 
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