oasis split thank fuck for that

[0bleak]

dissensus, in a distilled and highly concentrated musical form:

 

[william_kent]

I never would have thought that I would post in a fucking oasis thread..

but...

today a mate at work told me about how one of his friends had booked a hotel room in Manchester, before "the announcement", for next July and they got a message today that their room has been cancelled but, if they want, they can rebook at 3 times the original price

#piracy

 

[william_kent]

the world has gone mad

from this week's popbitch newsletter

 

[Corpsey]

I guess it's partly that internet thing of viral crazes, where everyone's talking about something and it spreads like wildfire. And its not just about "I want to see this" it's also "I want to have been there (and share photos of me being there on the internet)".

As well as nostalgia and all the rest of it.

 

[IdleRich]

I never would have thought that I would post in a fucking oasis thread..

but...

today a mate at work told me about how one of his friends had booked a hotel room in Manchester, before "the announcement", for next July and they got a message today that their room has been cancelled but, if they want, they can rebook at 3 times the original price

#piracy

Cunts... surely not legal, do they have any recourse?

 

[william_kent]

Cunts... surely not legal, do they have any recourse?

even if they went to trading standards / small claims court do you think the proprietors of the hotel will care? they will rake it in from the sad fucks who want to contribute to Noel's alimony fund

 

[william_kent]

I predict that the Internet in the UK will die approx 9 am Saturday morning

#DDOS

 

[william_kent]

I've worked with young people who have been taken aback, nay, aghast, at my opinion that I'm not in favour of the legalisation of cannabis in the UK because of taxation, regulation, extortionate prices for weak THC hayseed, government interference, etc, BUT the downside of that ( weed being illegal in the UK ) is that you (i.e, me, we are all ONE ) might end up been stuck in a northern seaside town looking for weed / draw / hash and being led around by some random biker / rocker who tells you "it's after 10 pm, X is closed for the night, Y might sort you out before 11pm, but I will lecture you while we wander the backstreet bedsit land about how I want to see THE QUO live and incidentally I\d like to find a commune where I can contribute NOTHING except my monologues on how great THE QUO are" ( true story, etc., )

I imagine the same happens nowadays except substitute THE QUO for OASIS and COMMUNE for wherever @Clinamenic lives


edit: I want to buy weed off green fingered enthusiasts, not huge profiteering conglomerates

 

[thirdform]

edit: I want to buy weed off green fingered enthusiasts, not huge profiteering conglomerates

Petty bourgeois deviation!

I have a much more simple (occam's razor, natch!) reason for decriminalising all drugs apart from weed and ket: both ketheads and stoners are the cultural scum of late capitalism. Jameson said that in his postmodernism book. even crackheads are not as moronic than that bunch.

 

[thirdform]

yeah but i'm not saying anything about good vs not good. coz i don't really see music in that way. i see it in terms of the assemblage / the machine. i'm describing rather than a value judgement. there's much more to say i think about something like oasis if you approach it like that. or in other words i get something out of thinking about it in that way.

this isn't true though is it? Let me put my middle eastern triumphalism aside for one minute but there are plenty of people in Britain with all too common lives who don't listen to the Editors or Oasis.

A lot of this seems to be the whole racist idea of Brits feeling marginalised in their own country because they are white/cis/het. But the working class does not see power in its alienation and its marginalisation from the political community, only the bourgeois and petit-bourgeois do. Mark was too conciliatory to the labour party, and the BBC which is why biscuits and the iq magical thinker were able to join in the hayday. All blame lies with craner and Luke in that respect, they didn't make k-punk totalitarian enough! and that is no joke!

 

[version]

I think sticking all the emphasis on them being straight, white guys is too reductive. Corpsey's right. If you look at the background of the Gallaghers specifically, you've got two kids who grew up being terrorised by an abusive drunk and who looked to be heading for a lifetime of manual labour on building sites. It's no wonder they made the music they did. It was escapism that actually reached escape velocity.

 

[william_kent]

"TV exposure could only be good, even if we were supporting Alvin Housedust. It seemed that Alvin was not Noel's only unlikely musical influence. He also saw Abba as one of the greats.

I told Liam he might have to dress up as Pudsey, the little sick bear, and he stormed out of the room shouting, 'It's never gonna f***** happen!' We all roared with laughter.

We rolled up on the day in the Bonemobile to find that we were to use Alvin's PA and drum kit, which saved a right load of mither. We were also told to mime the track which would be a first. With spirits lifted, we made our way to replica Rovers Return (we were at the Granada Studio Tour location, which had been opened to the paying public) and started on the bar. If we only had to mime, what was the harm?

'Right, this is it. Everyone will be watching,' Noel announced. He was trying to warm us up for the gig. 'It doesn't matter if it's two hundred people in the crowd or two thousand. Just enjoy it.'

We burst onto stage, ready to be amazed. The steel roadside barriers were in place to control the baying mob of fundraisers and Granada staff. All 12 of them. Alvin was still in the back, applying a tub or two of wax to his f****** massive hair and getting ready to coo-ca-choo. Outside, Liam faced the crowd. As usual when nervous, Liam became defensive and was stood staring wildly at them. Even at this early stage he was perfecting his glare. Rather than a stadium of testosterone-fuelled males as an audience, though, he had members of the Salvation Army, St. John's school choir and a handful of technicians. They all looked nervously back at the aggressive singer with the long hair and face like a hooligan, all set to attack. I laughed, as I knew that Liam meant no harm. Not sure if the little girl who was crying at the front did, though.

The cameras began to record as the compere faced the crowed and began, in his big showbiz voice. 'Let us now welcome Oasis who have just flown back to be with us from their tour... OASIS!' He swept his arm around and stood facing us with a cheesy grin. A bead of sweat slowly rolled from his brow and down his forehead as he was met by silence. We all just stared at him.
'We've just come from Burnage, d*******. We ain't on f***** tour,' snapped Liam.

The crowd erupted in laughter, from the school choir to the Sally Army, as we launched into 'Take Me' and Liam stared the compere down off the stage. We performed more than adequately and received as much a response as you'd expect from a mimed performance to a crowd full of kids and ambulance staff.

 

[Benny Bunter]

I think sticking all the emphasis on them being straight, white guys is too reductive. Corpsey's right. If you look at the background of the Gallaghers specifically, you've got two kids who grew up being terrorised by an abusive drunk and who looked to be heading for a lifetime of manual labour on building sites. It's no wonder they made the music they did. It was escapism that actually reached escape velocity.

Escape velocity is a good phrase.

It's also why once they made it big and had done songs like live forever, cigarettes and alcohol and rock n roll star they went shit - nothing more to say.

 

[IdleRich]

even if they went to trading standards / small claims court do you think the proprietors of the hotel will care? they will rake it in from the sad fucks who want to contribute to Noel's alimony fund

Seems like... what if they rent the room out at triple price but later realise they can get more, will they cancel people again?

 

[thirdform]

I think sticking all the emphasis on them being straight, white guys is too reductive. Corpsey's right. If you look at the background of the Gallaghers specifically, you've got two kids who grew up being terrorised by an abusive drunk and who looked to be heading for a lifetime of manual labour on building sites. It's no wonder they made the music they did. It was escapism that actually reached escape velocity.

exactly, that's my point.
We do the same for rnb, rap, hardcore acid techno, gabba etc.

I was criticising shaka and kpunks defence of Dido back in the day, which shaka's defence of this seem to imply.

Subvert's explanation is simple, but the best. people just like the guitar bands of their youth.

 

[thirdform]

what I don't get is the dissensus valuation, I think its moronic. There's a degree we're all inverted snobs on here but some people lose all proportionality and take it to a ludicrous degree.

 

[thirdform]

Escape velocity is a good phrase.

you want real escape velosity?

 

[0bleak]

I'm sad that my mash didn't get any likes from Oasis fans.
What does a mthrfckr gotta do?
I even got a migraine from putting it together for y'all.
made with pure love in my heart out to the fans of both oasis and jungle, 'cause after all (come on, you know how it goes!)

 

[william_kent]

I'm sad that my mash didn't get any likes from Oasis fans.
What does a mthrfckr gotta do?
I even got a migraine from putting it together for y'all.
made with pure love in my heart out to the fans of both oasis and jungle, 'cause after all (come on, you know how it goes!)

I reacted with a "laugh", is that not appreciation enough? oh, yeah, I'm not an Oasis fan so it won't count

 

[0bleak]

nah, that doesn't count, good sir