A D H D

[mixed_biscuits]

Is that a self diagnosis?

I was referring to woops!

 

[mixed_biscuits]

Adults diagnosing children with so called ADHD on such a flimsy, vague and subjective set of supposed symptoms, and prescribing them powerful drugs, is horrific and disturbing to me. What the fuck are we doing?

There are non-pharmaceutical interventions that are as effective, says the research.

IMO it's definitely a thing and if it's causing the child problems and/or irrecoverably derailing their development then it's best to help them, especially if drugs are not absolutely necessary.

 

[mixed_biscuits]

Nutraceuticals like l-theanine, which is the calming stuff in green tea, could be attempted if lifestyle/activity changes are tricky.

 

[mixed_biscuits]

As for adults, how many supposed ADHD sufferers have honestly fully explored alternatives to drugs in order to combat that list of symptoms posted upthread? Exercise, a good diet, good sleep habits, a healthy social and family life, pursuing creative outputs etc etc. It's not exactly rocket science. Everyone's desperate for a quick fix, but there isn't one.

The quick fix is dual n back. MMV but research says it's as good as big pharma.

 

[mixed_biscuits]

• carelessness and lack of attention to detail

Because whatever you are doing is probably BORING

• continually starting new tasks before finishing old ones

BORING tasks you can't be arsed to finish, and probably someone is telling you to do them

• poor organisational skills

Can't muster up the interest to care about the BORING things you have to organise

• inability to focus or prioritise

On BORING tasks

• continually losing or misplacing things

Too distracted by the BORING tasks to sort yourself out

• forgetfulness

Mind has been gradually numbed so you daydream to get away from BORING reality

• restlessness and edginess

You feel like you should be somewhere else, doing something less BORING

• difficulty keeping quiet, and speaking out of turn

when listening to some BORING fucker droning on

• blurting out responses and often interrupting others

See above

• mood swings, irritability and a quick temper
• inability to deal with stress
• extreme impatience
• taking risks in activities, often with little or no regard for personal safety or the safety of others – for example, driving dangerously

All to do with how understandably BORED you are

School used to be a lot more boring in the old days, and the problem about ADHD is that it makes 99% of activities boring. Kids without ADHD can also find things boring, but the boredom problem isn't such that they feel compelled to cause chaos in order to receive the whistle-stop stimulation they desperately need.

 

[mixed_biscuits]

a couple of friends have been diagnosed in their fifties. Having spent their lives getting belittled by teachers, peers, made to stand in the hall basically every day at school, leaving with no exams , running to the city with no belongings, losing their wallet all the time, becoming hardcore alcoholics, going through twelve steps repeatedly, NA, becoming alcoholic again, fucking up every single meaningful relationship for decades, and then having to explain to their work coach why they’ve been unemployed this whole time, it’s been revelatory.

They haven’t got evangelical about it at all or got on meds and mostly it seems like adhd is talked about by their specialists as a socially contingent way of evading self hatred.

Alcohol is a depressant and slows the whirring down.

 

[Benny Bunter]

School used to be a lot more boring in the old days, and the problem about ADHD is that it makes 99% of activities boring. Kids without ADHD can also find things boring, but the boredom problem isn't such that they feel compelled to cause chaos in order to receive the whistle-stop stimulation they desperately need.

It doesn't actually exist.

Goodnight!

 

[mixed_biscuits]

Relationships are a bit of a danger zone because of the scope for moments of extreme stimulation i.e. the ADHD person may impulsively choose to pull the rug out from under their partner's feet just to enjoy the chaotic fireworks display it sets off.

 

[mixed_biscuits]

It doesn't actually exist.

Goodnight!

I've just given some criteria by which it can be differentiated.

 

[Benny Bunter]

I think school is probably even more boring now than in the old days

 

[mixed_biscuits]

I think school is probably even more boring now than in the old days

That's strange because school now tries to avoid boredom before trying to avoid ignorance, unlike the old days.

 

[Benny Bunter]

Nah, I've got a 10 year old, looks well boring, trust me

 

[Benny Bunter]

I enjoyed school for the most part, despite being surrounded by thickos in secondary school. Primary school was idyllic looking back on it now

 

[shiels]

Another misunderstood boy genius Like everyone else on this forum and their dog

 

[shiels]

Shut the fuck up and eat your Ritalin

 

[Mr. Tea]

I think school is probably even more boring now than in the old days

By the end of KS2, children are expected to know all of the spelling, punctuation and grammar set out in the national curriculum, such as fronted adverbials, correct paragraph use and use of complex punctuation such as semicolons.

https://www.twinkl.co.uk/teaching-wiki/grammar#:~:text=By%20the%20end%20of%20KS2,6%20in%20the%20national%20SATs.

 

[Benny Bunter]

Another misunderstood boy genius Like everyone else on this forum and their dog

Who are you on about?

 

[shiels]

‘Surrounded by thickos’ might as well be dissensus motto

 

[0bleak]

It is something to watch people act is if certain things are almost completely made up.
Or that people haven't just got their shit together with the right diet and exercise or whatever else.
It's a bit like reading a forum full of people debating whether quadriplegics are faking it, or whether people that are missing limbs are really just good magicians.

 

[Benny Bunter]

No it's absolutely nothing like that at all, but I'll shut up now