Patti Smith's Meltdown
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sus
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“There was an archer who was in love with his sister so the archer looked at his sister and he said, All the madness between me n you is real private. But the sister was real scared so she put down her cigarette and married the Sultan.”
The story becomes completely incoherent but I think there's something very interesting about this story, as an unconscious/archetypal arc
There is some private source of pleasure and desire that is illegible to the outside world, to the public. The love between the archer and the sister. And it offers itself to her naturally, fluent and effortless. And she doesn't trust it, doesn't trust her own desire, her own sense of valuing. And she instead gives herself over completely, weds herself to the most public, agreed-upon, legible object possible, the Sultan.
The story becomes completely incoherent but I think there's something very interesting about this story, as an unconscious/archetypal arc
There is some private source of pleasure and desire that is illegible to the outside world, to the public. The love between the archer and the sister. And it offers itself to her naturally, fluent and effortless. And she doesn't trust it, doesn't trust her own desire, her own sense of valuing. And she instead gives herself over completely, weds herself to the most public, agreed-upon, legible object possible, the Sultan.
sus
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Like, I do think this is a rom-com plot that plays out in real life,
but even beyond couples dynamics. it's this dynamic this sacrifice that plays everyday in all the little self-compromises, the everyday moments of distrusting giving over your opinion to others, of bending to the public will the public desire the public sense of what is good and worth doing
but even beyond couples dynamics. it's this dynamic this sacrifice that plays everyday in all the little self-compromises, the everyday moments of distrusting giving over your opinion to others, of bending to the public will the public desire the public sense of what is good and worth doing
sus
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Like, this is the plot of Mrs Dalloway. Mrs Dalloway and Peter had something intense between them and she married Mr. Dalloway instead
and it's like both of their lives are sort of wrecked by this forever. And the party is partially this recognition, this reconciliation, to the way that her cowardice at 16 changed the course of both their lives irrevocably.
shakahislop
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kid charlemagne
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by the way, I read everything you write, and while I may not have much intelligent to contribute (never mind that our music interests rarely align), I do get something out of it
Now, I may not even be able to pull my thoughts together well enough to explain what it is that I get out of it, I assure you that you are reaching people in some way.
Now, I may not even be able to pull my thoughts together well enough to explain what it is that I get out of it, I assure you that you are reaching people in some way.