Dylan: I just don't get it, and I never will

[Benny Bunter]

did Dylan make it into your 60's Santafest, @Benny Bunter ?

Yup, Newport 1965

 

[Benny Bunter]

Listened to it's alright ma (I'm only bleeding) last night, what an incredible song that is.

 

[0bleak]

such a waste of such a great drummer
she can take out most people with a single hand:




oh, ok - I'll get right on that - didn't realize it was so easy!

 

[Murphy]

64-65: peak sixties thread picks

95: jungle's zenith

Thrive in '95 - Jungle's zenith

Herein we make the case for the enduring beauty of 95 jungle, the year that the genre was shorn of overt external influences and grew into an utterly unique multi faceted musical artifact. We begin with some slightly obscure ethereal soulfulness from Override/AKA Klute: Feel free to chime...

www.dissensus.com

25: Maga Trumpenkriegers 2.0

 

[Corpsey]

It's mindblowing to me that Lenny kravitz is that rich

I only know those two songs by him and I've forgotten the first one

I guess "I want to get away" was successful enough to buy a dozen mansions

He's sold 40 million albums worldwide

That'll do

 

[jenks]

Whilst the classic run from 64-75ish is hard to beat, I do think this incarnation of Dylan is also pretty impressive (not that anything is likely to change Lila’s mind.)

 

[kid charlemagne]

i do still love him to death im just saying you cant make arguments for anything outside the classic period. you can't do it. it's illegal. those records are monsterous. once the spirit has left him hes the purest example of an idiot you'll ever find. if anyone doubts this just look at his paintings.
conclusive proof of what a moron he is. mvuent agrees with me. he says it often.

oh this is the same bit u do with joni mitchell where u say blue is her only album worth listening to.... got it

 

[luka]

An artist isn't a football team. You don't have to support everything they do

 

[Corpsey]

I sometimes wish I was a fan of an artist in that way

Do I feel that way about anybody? Lenny K aside

 

[jenks]

An artist isn't a football team. You don't have to support everything they do

I agree but there’s some you forgive more than others because of what they’ve done previously.

 

[sus]

certain artists earn enough cred in my mind that I incline toward thinking that I'm missing something/misinterpreting/not bringing the requisite interpretive schema to bear to unlock the object. rather than assuming the object is bad.

 

[luka]

certain artists earn enough cred in my mind that I incline toward thinking that I'm missing something/misinterpreting/not bringing the requisite interpretive schema to bear to unlock the object. rather than assuming the object is bad.

As a purely cerebral man it's impossible for you to discern whether an artifact contains soul-force but for me, as an instinctive man, a natural man, I know as soon as it touches my skin.

 

[version]

As a purely cerebral man it's impossible for you to discern whether an artifact contains soul-force but for me, as an instinctive man, a natural man, I know as soon as it touches my skin.

Cold-blooded Gus vs. Warm-blooded Luke.

 

[kid charlemagne]

An artist isn't a football team. You don't have to support everything they do

there are plenty of dylan albums and songs i will call bad dont worry

 

[mvuent]

Street Legal's "Changing of the Guard"

this one's been stuck in my head for literally years since you played it on the way to one of the dude meetups. didn't know what it was called.

 

[mvuent]

hes the purest example of an idiot you'll ever find. if anyone doubts this just look at his paintings.
conclusive proof of what a moron he is. mvuent agrees with me. he says it often.

that's the beauty of stories like his. it's easy to fall into the trap of thinking you have to be an all-around genius to make a major artistic contribution. it's a disheartening thought that is supported by a lot of biographies. but then you have someone like dylan, someone of very limited intellectual capacity, who nonetheless has powerful intuitions, and creates works that rise to legendary status. ultimately with art, you just need to be capable of making something good, at least once. you don't need to be anything else. inspiring stuff for all us midwits!

 

[luka]

id be tempted to say that the vast majority of Important Artists are total idiots. very very rare to pair intellectual capacity, good judgement and common sense with Actual Artistic Ability which as you say requires instinct and inutition and mostly happens at a level below the conscious

 

[luka]

someone like Prynne is a massively clever but a lot of people will find his poetry a bit bloodless, lacking a life-spark.

 

[luka]

the vast majority of Great Artists have next to no access to what it is they are doing. it just happens to them. therefore they can happily continue being morons.

 

[mvuent]

the vast majority of Great Artists have next to no access to what it is they are doing. it just happens to them. therefore they can happily continue being morons.

you can't control what comes in but some people definitely have their ways of keeping the door propped open.