dilbert1

Well-known member
Yes we know everything you do is Marxist. I bet you do Marxist breathing techniques and use Marxist shampoo and cook only Marxist recipes
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
This is the 'masculine vibe shift' @sus Keeps talking about. Third came of age in a brief moment of time when the 'white cis man' was being pegged back. Thirds rise to power came then, in that moment. But now the white cis man (exemplified by dilbert and trump) is back. They're mad and they're not going to take it any more.

bit of an l for them, they should have backed Kamala. Trump is too opportunistic for them to last long.

A bit like everyone who backed Starmer and now he has no ones support. bad choices!
 

0bleak

Well-known member
All I did was post some decent tunes, nothing more nothing less. Its been my mission my entire dissensus career. I don’t make arguments about “white people” or “the hardcore continuum” that’s your job

not jungle, but immediately though of this sample (not from a jungle tune, but I KNOW @thirdform has to know it)

edit: gravedigger has nothing to do with it - random image choice

now y'all kiss and make up and i'm hoping you can both make it sunday to the party since you're two of the people here that I think might dig it :)
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
no beef on my end, i'm just chatting shit to pass the time.

Frankly I can admire the tenacity of moronic jump up fans, at least they aren't self-conscious and aren't seeking artistic validation from a form which can only deliver that to a limited extent. It's people like me who are the losers lol, unable to fully submit to the demands of high culture. Inverted snob innit. The archetypical dissensus position. Nothing to be ashamed of!

But then people like Alec Empire have always gotten dance music more than us in some respects. It ultimately is not really all that different to rock n roll. We just tell ourselves different stories because we want something more classy and sophisticated. Because who wants to be compared to students and guitars?
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
proper ragga jungle techno 93 style, the best.





heretical opinion maybe but 93 ragga jungle > 94 amen ragga rinseouts. maybe? I would need to actually compile a list to gauge whether that is true. I love both 2 da max, but don't really vibe with the modern ragga sound, feels too disconnected from dancehall or sound systems in general.
 

DLaurent

Well-known member
Here's a provisional tracklist for a mix I'm working on tonight. Any requests for the next few tracks? As I've found Jungle is the easiest music to mix, despite the scattergun drums, or maybe because of.

Koda - The Deep
Skanna - All You Wanted
Urban Jungle - Back In the Days
Jonny L - Sam
FBD Project - Classified Listening
D'Cruze - Lonely
Blame and Justice - Night Vision
DJ Dextrous & Hyper Man - She Wants a 24/7
System X - Mind Games
Potential Bad Boy - Baby Me Mine
 

version

Well-known member
There's just something in original jungle what the revival stuff doesn't have... For example basslines: like this track has space in bassline, and generally bassline melodies were catchier. The humble sine bass needs some effort to sound good I guess.

I'm interested just why it is these things can't be recaptured, some combination of changes within the environment, the people, the technology. You can have producers who were there, give them the same gear they had back in the day and even they'll struggle to tap into whatever it was.
 

gremino

Moster Sirphine
I'm fascinated by just why it is these things can't be recaptured, some endlessly complex combination of changes within the environment, the people, the technology. You can have producers who were there, give them the same gear they had back in the day and even they will struggle to tap into whatever it was.
I guess musical influence is one thing. Original junglists were directly influenced by rare groove, reggae, hiphop, acid house/techno/rave. I think the oomph, impact and immediacy comes from rare groove/reggae/hiphop, which has that "real" immediacy compared to dance music. Also the original working class raves must have influence, where ravers went to actually have fun :D

And the basslines, they're actually composed. What I'm trying to say is they have catch. Even when they're wild/experiemental, you can hear how producers had an idea going on - "what if I try to put it in this crazy way".
 
another one from Sully I really like



The guy is indisputably a master of the craft when he wants to be. It's when he's less subtleI tend to take a different turn and not be so down.

Like Phineus II and unlike the Bryce (imo) he nails the uncanny valley time dilation effect. That for me is how the way new jungle can evolve, when you know it couldn't have been made (given the standard set up of akai s900) in 93-95, even if it does not sound inconceivable that such tracks could be made in top end studios in 93-95. The bueaty of even detroit techno is that it uses fairly budget equipment. The real top end stuff is in recording studios of Oasis or Celine Dion or whoever, and hence it is a complete and utter waste of technology.

Heard him and Tim reaper play at the weekend, on shrooms. He’s a seriously precise producer and he really brings the hi spec slickness aomgsidenthe roughness and the time warp sucks and sprinkles and stone skimmy delays of the best old school stuff
 
It was an apocalyptic posh crustie student crowd thiough. Me and my mate were the oldest people there apart from one OG crustie. Felt like undercover cops, and when we pointed it out while tripping we became overly conscious of everything we did until we were acting like undercover cops, dancing like undercover cops
 
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