Suicide

pattycakes_

Can turn naughty
What are your thoughts on this most macabre of matters?

Is it ever the right choice?

Should it be legal?

Do the Swiss have the right idea?

Have you ever been close yourself? Or lost someone?

Obviously a sensitive topic and hopefully I'm not triggering anyone here. Definitely not my intention. But it's a subject I am thinking about an awful lot recently, especially in the face of a world that feels like it's imploding.

Would be great if we could keep it mature and sensitive.
 

The King of Pussy Gettin

Well-known member
I've survived 2 attempts (barbiedoll overdose and suspension) + have had a couple of friends catch
the bus as well, one of them just a couple of months ago.

I'd likely check out now if I knew where to purchase the proper materials.

Needless to say, I'm very much a proponent, though this somehow doesn't make it any easier
when friends decide it's time they shuffle off to Buffalo.
 

jenks

thread death
I think @woops would agree that Alvarez’s Savage God is a great book on the literary treatment of suicide.
When you get to my advanced years, you’ve known a few who have taken that decision and I cannot begin to imagine how you get to make that choice but as tough as it’s for us who are left behind god knows how tough it is for those who do it.
 

martin

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In principle, I'd support suicide clinics - hardly a source of joy for those left behind, but surely preferable to know they died pain-free and with some dignity, rather than in panic, plummeting 20 floors, or getting decapitated by a train.

But then I read about the Swiss clinic where the dispatch pod didn't work, so the staff strangled the 'patient' to death...guess it's not surprising those places would attract sadists and perverts who can Shipman the disabled and depressed to their hearts' content.

All I know is that a lot of people who should commit suicide never will - which makes me so depressed, I want to kill myself.
 

pattycakes_

Can turn naughty
Thanks a lot for sharing @Goth Feet ASMR

There's no simple answer eh. I've never lost anyone dear to me, but have lost people I was well aquainted with. Can't imagine what it must be like if it was someone very close. Have a feeling I'd lean towards empathizing with them and be relieved that their suffering had ended. Obviously it opens up a Pandora's box for their near and dear, to echo what others have said.

I had a couple attempts too, which in hindsight were probably not followed all the way through because I didn't really want to go, I just wanted whatever it was to end. Suspension and suffocation were my choices. The survival instinct is a powerful thing. I was reading a forum where people share stories, techniques and whatever else related and one of the main overarching themes was just how difficult it was to guarantee success. So many attempts fail and often leave the person in a worse situation whether mentally or physically. Between survival instinct, technique failure or being saved against your will, there's just no 100% sure shot way. Cruel stuff.

The clinic thing was never that appealing, but now martin has put me off it for good. It's also not very affordable.
 

pattycakes_

Can turn naughty
for some people it does not unfortunately

I'd say there's a big chance of finding out the whole wherever you go there you are thing with that. But a change of scenery can be useful to at least allow you to see things from a different perspective. So while it won't get rid of your baggage it might be a better environment for looking through it. But 'might' is doing some work there. Nothing is set in stone when it comes to this stuff
 

0bleak

Well-known member
Can't believe this one didn't take off

I've probably already said too much elsewhere on the subject so I purposely didn't participate in order not to be a perpetual bummer.

but, to reiterate, it is something I've thought about continuously since I was about ~8 due to various issues related to and caused my fairly severe nvld that was undiagnosed until I was about 30

and in the last year, I've been in the worst mental state of my lifetime, so...
 

william_kent

Well-known member
I've probably already said too much elsewhere on the subject so I purposely didn't participate in order not to be a perpetual bummer.

but, to reiterate, it is something I've thought about continuously since I was about ~8 due to various issues related to and caused my fairly severe nvld that was undiagnosed until I was about 30

and in the last year, I've been in the worst mental state of my lifetime, so...

yeah, but we love you @0bleak so stay with us man
 

0bleak

Well-known member
I don't think I'm smart enough to to be successful anyway.
:)

I'd probably just end up with more "train tracks" from having to be sewn up.
 
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