shakahislop

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those early little glimmers of what became woke were quite good at the time I think. finally someone saying things like that
 

shakahislop

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2009 to about 2016 is really a nadir. for music and films as well. things pick up again around that point. it’s not totally arbitrary or due to personal circumstance I think
 

thirdform

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don't post old fashioned sounding music.

this is from 1994 and still sounds newer than everything you have posted

 

shakahislop

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that ron trent tune is class but it does sound ancient. i thought 'this sounds like 1992' and clicked through, and it was in fact made in 1992.

i don't want to give the impression that i'm particularly going out to bat for addison rae. i'm not an ideological poptimist. i was thinking that the square in the middle megaselling US pop music at the moment is better than it was for a long time though

they're always interesting as text no, pop tunes. the ones that are suddenly resonating with millions of people. i mean they're interesting to think about. why these particular words and sentiments are doing something to people en masse - having an affect en masse. they're a diagnostic approach for thinking about what our cultures are like at any given time. i think they do change how people actually think and act as well. behaviours are legitimated by pop choons. sometimes they circulate concepts. produce neologisms.

pop music moves on fast too. i was on a plane yesterday listening to the top uk songs of 2009 and they sound a million years old. beamed in from another planet. pop and rap are the two things where the audience/artist feedback loop feels particularly fast. no fucking around. coz they thrive on novelty

don't you think those choons sound new? as distinct from good. production-wise i think all this stuff sounds kind of new. it sounds like AI. they sound so insta informed as well lyrically. girls trying to understand themselves. can you not hear the sex and gender politics shifting in them compared to tunes from ten years ago

gus' mum didn't text me back yet, but two blue ticks on whatsapp so she might weigh in in a bit
 
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