GhostofKinski

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Not a Marxist myself but I'd guess being familiar with dialectical materialism aka dialectical reason aka "marxism" (and Hegel), would help.
Thanks, I’ve read a lot of Marx. But, without the context of Hegel I think I’m probably missing a lot. I was thinking of buying one of those Rius type books: introducing Hegel, Hegel for dummies, lol. If you have a suggestion as a starting point, it’s much appreciated. Thanks!

Oh, just noticed you’re a new member.
Welcome!!!
 

william_kent

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Thanks, I’ve read a lot of Marx. But, without the context of Hegel I think I’m probably missing a lot. I was thinking of buying one of those Rius type books: introducing Hegel, Hegel for dummies, lol. If you have a suggestion as a starting point, it’s much appreciated. Thanks!

Oh, just noticed you’re a new member.
Welcome!!!


don't worry about Hegel, he was a racist shit full of crap about our African friends
 

GhostofKinski

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Are you serious? If so it’s fine. I’ve gone through more than half my life without knowing his work and I’m still here.
JWC is not the first member to suggest guzzling some Hegel though.

And I’m sorry, I’m ashamed to ask. Have you been officially diagnosed and/or anointed as a Marxist on here? It’s a thing Y’know?

I, myself has been definitively diagnosed a social democrat,…but I got the “eye of the tiger” ambition to make into the red league.
 

william_kent

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@GhostofKinski


I self identify as ANARCHO PUNK / NEW AGE TRAVELLER HIPPY / MDMA LOVE CABBAGE / LSD CASUALTY ? DMT PROPHET / SELLOUT

fuck labels man

but Hegel: racist as fuck:

In Negro life the characteristic point is that consciousness has not yet attained to the realization of any substantial objective existence—as for example, God, or Law—in which the interest of man’s volition is involved and in which he realizes his own being … The Negro … exhibits the natural man in his completely wild and untamed state. We must lay aside all thought of reverence and morality—all that we call feeling—if we would rightly comprehend him; there is nothing harmonious with humanity to be found in this type of character.

^ from Hegel, "philosophy of history"

seems pretty racist to me

"nothing harmonious with humanity " wtf

edit: and the cunt is sexist to boot, lol
 

GhostofKinski

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@GhostofKinski


I self identify as ANARCHO PUNK / NEW AGE TRAVELLER HIPPY / MDMA LOVE CABBAGE / LSD CASUALTY ? DMT PROPHET / SELLOUT

fuck labels man

but Hegel: racist as fuck:



from Hegel, "philosophy of history"

seems pretty racist to me

"nothing harmonious with humanity " wtf
Not disagreeing but can. You not find analogus (.is that a word 3rd?) about the Irish & every other fuckn Vic of capitalist countries colonialism buggering of any nation?
 

william_kent

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Not disagreeing but can. You not find analogus (.is that a word 3rd?) about the Irish & every other fuckn Vic of capitalist countries colonialism buggering of any nation?

?

not quite getting this?

HEGEL calls our AFRICAN FRIENDS "subhuman" * and you want to argue?

* - technically HEGEL says that non white people have "nothing harmonious with humanity", but whatever
 

GhostofKinski

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You should read George FitzHugh: ‘
Cannibals All’

As repugnant as his arguments, arguments they remain.
Persuasive to some even today.
Do you deny the collective consensus of the English as ubermenchen to the Irish race?
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
Are you serious? If so it’s fine. I’ve gone through more than half my life without knowing his work and I’m still here.
JWC is not the first member to suggest guzzling some Hegel though.

And I’m sorry, I’m ashamed to ask. Have you been officially diagnosed and/or anointed as a Marxist on here? It’s a thing Y’know?

I, myself has been definitively diagnosed a social democrat,…but I got the “eye of the tiger” ambition to make into the red league.

he was spectacularly racist but his logic is seminal and worth a read. but given your lack of aptitude for algebra, I'm not sure how much of it will land. but maybe if you culturally convert to islam, abandon alcohol, and guzzle 9 cups of coffee daily...
 

GhostofKinski

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he was spectacularly racist but his logic is seminal and worth a read. but given your lack of aptitude for algebra, I'm not sure how much of it will land. but maybe if you culturally convert to islam, abandon alcohol, and guzzle 9 cups of coffee daily...
Never!

Edit: not the algebra par. No argument.
Not the Islam part. No religion
But you of all non terrestrial beings suggest total abstinence from the water of life? Never gonna happen. Like your society
 

other_life

bioconfused
also even if the thought "we must remake society on the basis of love [or this love; less mistaken]" is mistaken, it does not mean that "this love" is less worthy nor that they [those with this particular odd thought] will not remake society. it is a motive force [definite prosocial and productive relations between militants] but it is not the means [x] nor the basis/fact of it [society bound together by free* association in productive work...

*which is/that is free of both impersonal/un-personing exploitation and exploitation through/disguised as personalist obligation (also: precisely not the sort of love that hounds people to remake society)]
 

GhostofKinski

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also even if the thought "we must remake society on the basis of love [or this love; less mistaken]" is mistaken, it does not mean that "this love" is less worthy nor that they [those with this particular odd thought] will not remake society. it is a motive force [definite prosocial and productive relations between militants] but it is not the means [x] nor the basis/fact of it [society bound together by free* association in productive work...

*which is/that is free of both impersonal/un-personing exploitation and exploitation through/disguised as personalist obligation (also: precisely not the sort of love that hounds people to remake society)]

So, what you’re saying is,…. You’re breaking up with me.
 
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