Dancing in the service of thought
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john eden
male pale and stale
Maybe you two could get a room and the rest of us could carry on with this rather good thread?
I think what's interesting is the space between the obvious thoughts "tits and samples" and being lost in music - I think there is a period where you are starting to think all kinds of abstract meditative stuff which is very hard to recall afterwards - a bit like dreaming. Or maybe that is being "lost", I dunno (blimey!)
I think what's interesting is the space between the obvious thoughts "tits and samples" and being lost in music - I think there is a period where you are starting to think all kinds of abstract meditative stuff which is very hard to recall afterwards - a bit like dreaming. Or maybe that is being "lost", I dunno (blimey!)
Guybrush
Dittohead
I only dance when I’m sober or thereabouts. When I’m drunk I seldom get the urge to dance. It mostly takes about ten minutes of dancing until I get that unselfconscious feeling that makes me unconcerned with anybody’s checking me out; it’s not like I’m shy or anything, but somehow it just feels slightly awkward at first. I tend not to look at girls if the music is good — I have my eyes closed pretty often, actually — and if I do it’s more of a collective ego-boost thing, ‘fuck it! we look hot right now.’ I think anyone with an expressive body language is a good dancer, no matter how silly their dancing looks like. Dancing is like an equaliser in that a skilled, yet ugly, dancer looks way hotter than some rigor-mortis struck model.
N
nomadologist
Guest
I'm sorry, but what I've seen of Europeans "dancing" doesn't even count.
Speaking for females everywhere, I feel comfortable saying that dancing and having a good time (even if it involves "grinding", a very common dance style in the U.S.) does not necessarily entail the willingness to have sex with bystanders.
Swears was right.
Speaking for females everywhere, I feel comfortable saying that dancing and having a good time (even if it involves "grinding", a very common dance style in the U.S.) does not necessarily entail the willingness to have sex with bystanders.
Swears was right.
Guybrush
Dittohead
You mean this?
Or this?
Yeah, most people over here dance like shit = barely at all and mostly to pull.
N
nomadologist
Guest
"you can never assume a girl likes you" is where he's right.
the first time i saw europeans dancing i thought it was some kind of weird ritual or joke. it was the most a-rhythmic thing i'd ever seen. kind of moving around with your hands up is not dancing.
i remember scandalizing german people with my girlfriends in germany by grinding. everyone just stopped dancing and stared.
in the U.S. some people are such good dancers that you'd feel embarrassed ever dancing near them.
the first time i saw europeans dancing i thought it was some kind of weird ritual or joke. it was the most a-rhythmic thing i'd ever seen. kind of moving around with your hands up is not dancing.
i remember scandalizing german people with my girlfriends in germany by grinding. everyone just stopped dancing and stared.
in the U.S. some people are such good dancers that you'd feel embarrassed ever dancing near them.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
N
nomadologist
Guest
i went to millions of clubs, and everyone sucked
N
nomadologist
Guest
the clubs weren't bad; the dancing was
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
'Bad' in what way? I go clubbing to have a good time, not stand there holding up score cards to show how good or otherwise I think everyone else's dancing is.
Sure, clubs where people mince around a pile of handbags getting bladdered on Bacardi Breezers are shit, and granted there are plenty of them Britain, but they're not the kind of clubs I go to. Clubs where people are dancing without regard to what they look like and just enjoying themselves, is more my thing.
I suspect clubs where people do 'good' or 'proper' dancing may be full of people just showing off, concentrating more on what they look like to other people rather than simply having fun.
In my experience, most people can dance reasonably well if they're suitably relaxed and uninhibited, and in any case, I'd rather see amateurish enthusiasm than professional exhibitionism.
Sure, clubs where people mince around a pile of handbags getting bladdered on Bacardi Breezers are shit, and granted there are plenty of them Britain, but they're not the kind of clubs I go to. Clubs where people are dancing without regard to what they look like and just enjoying themselves, is more my thing.
I suspect clubs where people do 'good' or 'proper' dancing may be full of people just showing off, concentrating more on what they look like to other people rather than simply having fun.
In my experience, most people can dance reasonably well if they're suitably relaxed and uninhibited, and in any case, I'd rather see amateurish enthusiasm than professional exhibitionism.
N
nomadologist
Guest
good for you. i like to watch talented people do things. i like to see good dancing like i like to hear good music. call me crazy...
N
nomadologist
Guest
bad in that they had NO RHYTHM and were not dancing to the beat
PS good dancers can "have fun" and dance well without having to think hard about it or consciously show off. as you'd probably know if you'd ever seen good dancing at a club
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
I'm pretty sure I'm a reasonable dancer, as are many of the people I regularly go clubbing with. I can at least keep time with the music. As I said, I think most people who have the ability to get seriously into the music and just enjoy themselves can be decent dancers.
99% percent of the clubs I've ever been to have been in the UK, so I can't really comment on Europe/US.
99% percent of the clubs I've ever been to have been in the UK, so I can't really comment on Europe/US.
N
nomadologist
Guest
well i've seen a huge difference between continental europeans and americans.
where did you see anyone dance in NY? hardly ever happens
where did you see anyone dance in NY? hardly ever happens
IdleRich
IdleRich
Body and Soul, Twilo (actually the standard was lower here if anything), a few other places I can't remember. This would have been 2000 maybe 2001, something like that. Guess they could have got better since then.
I remember going to Hungary and one of my friends was living with and studying a tribe of gypsies. They apparently took the piss out of the non-Roma Hungarian dancers who I seem to remember weren't that good. I never got to see the Roma dance but the word is that they were pretty amazing.
I remember going to Hungary and one of my friends was living with and studying a tribe of gypsies. They apparently took the piss out of the non-Roma Hungarian dancers who I seem to remember weren't that good. I never got to see the Roma dance but the word is that they were pretty amazing.
N
nomadologist
Guest
hmmm never been to Twilo. i would not consider ny a very good city to see dancing, because you have to pay for a cabaret license to have a dancefloor so almost no one does. it would also depend on what kind of music is playing--no one is going to dance to techno-y stuff in ny, but if you went to a a hip-hop, house or other kind of club in the right neighborhood of the right city you would see some awesome dancing. i would avoid manhattan entirely.
my dad's grandmother was left on a doorstep by gypsies. i always wonder about that culture.
my dad's grandmother was left on a doorstep by gypsies. i always wonder about that culture.
N
nomadologist
Guest
1) i think it's always been the case with ny, compounded by the draconian cabaret laws that were enacted at some point in semi-recent history
2) because it is considered supremely uncool to listen to anything "ravey" on the eastern seaboard (Edit: except maybe in DC, but even there it's a dying breed)
2) because it is considered supremely uncool to listen to anything "ravey" on the eastern seaboard (Edit: except maybe in DC, but even there it's a dying breed)
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