Vinyl dying (for DJ's)

Dr Awesome

Techsteppin'

 

Dr Awesome

Techsteppin'
Still cannot understand this clubs not maintaining their decks issue. Can people not bring their own?

Becomes a pain in the ass. Not to mention people ruining your needles. Also re-aligning them when you get home because they've whacked the weights on backwards, turned anti skate up to the max and set the tone arm hight to be as high as possible.
Unless you've got a road case for them you've got to lug them around in a boot or inthe back seat of a car.

Having your equipment in the club means you've either got to pack down at 5:30am or come back the next day for them, neither of which is a particularly appealing option, rather than just getting into a cab at the end of the night and forgetting about it.

(I still do it though)
 

Dr Awesome

Techsteppin'
yeah that's true.
Clubs also don't maintain their CDJ's for what it's worth I suppose.

Had this one on the weekend that was cuing every time a kick came through the monitor. It's happened twice now - so it's not just ONE DJ with the monitor too loud. :confused:
 

Alfons

Way of the future
Bringing your own decks + mixer has been the standard at local clubs (Reykjavik) since I started playing out ~10 years ago (with the very rare exception). Its a huge pain in the butt, but I guess it beats using busted ass equipment, which is the reason most promoters/club owners cite, e.g. if the venue owns the equipment the dj's don't take good care of it. What's worse is that this generally leads to pretty makeshift dj booths that aren't really suitable at all...

Off course this isn't going to be an issue in superclubs, but I think as equipment use gets more (rather than less) varied, i.e. more different setups of controllers, fx units, decks etc, this is only going to get more common place. Most of these controller+laptop setups are way more portable than a pair of decks too.

As for vinyl buying, it feels like it's leveling off around here at least. The dj's that have decided to stick with vinyl are sticking with it, the ones who are going digital have gone that way. Bit of a pragmatist myself and use both at the moment. I guess the young generation will go with digital but I still get a fair few young cats saying they'd like to give vinyl a try as it feels more "authentic" and so on.
 

outraygeous

Well-known member
I am at peace with DJing now. I have realised you need all mediums.

I play cds, Serato and Records. I do have different bookings though and the length of the set is important.

I like how everyone is doing vinyl only nights now. I was so ahead of my time hahah
 

PadaEtc

Emperor Penguin
Was playing downstairs at the Polish Parrish Club in Bradford, playing vinyl, and someone comes up and asks if I have access to youtube... really?
 

Local Authority

bitch city
Was just thinking about this earlier.

There seems to be a tipping point on the horizon regarding techno & house, where it will explode once again and some aspects will be pushed even further underground.

With quite a few big house and techno DJ's still supporting vinyl I can imagine this ethos making an impression on eager DJ's to be. Possibly pushing sales back up. But I only say this because most of the records I want to buy on Juno & Redeye are already sold out, within what seems to be a week of release, so it looks like its already happening.
 
But I only say this because most of the records I want to buy on Juno & Redeye are already sold out, within what seems to be a week of release, so it looks like its already happening.

What you're seeing happening is drop in pressings. Many labels now press 100 or 200 records in a run, so they get sold out fast. 300 records is now sort of normal run, while not that long some more obscure labels pressed 500 in limited runs.
 

Sectionfive

bandwagon house
Interesting piece from Brewster

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/nov/23/calvin-harris-controversy-artistry-club-culture

This new breed of star DJ is not content to be hidden away in a booth with a tiny slit, like Junior Vasquez was at New York's seminal Sound Factory. Instead they mosh and crowd surf from their elevated stage, while the crowd look on, shuffling and whooping. Worse still, some of them are alleged to perform to the kind of pre-mixed sets that have caused the Calvin Harris controversy.

Prerecording sets is a curious phenomenon, because it's the live interaction between DJ and dancefloor where the real fun occurs. Without the ability to change the mood, change the tempo, change the style, you're nothing more than a jukebox that needs a toilet break every so often.

It's what makes DJing more elastic and versatile than, say, a rock band, whose members are tied to their audience by the songs they know and have rehearsed.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Good article. I have no problem whatsoever with someone dj-ing from cds in general but a pre-recorded set isn't dj-ing. It may be something else and that something else may be fun but it's something different from dj-ing.
I think I remember reading that when you see Deadmaus or whatever he has a light show and visuals and probably choreographed dancers and who knows what else and that is all timed to happen at specific points in the set and so he can't change the order of the music or play a Queen b-side cos it would all go out of sync.
 

Elijah

Butterz
People talk like whats appropriate for a 10,000 people festival is the same as whats appropriate for a 300 person venue. Literally got nothing to do with each other.

I see people in the UK underground piping up about Deadmaus like its got something to do with what we do.
 

dert

Well-known member
did anyone ever mention something about a replacement for the 1200, or anything on that front? I think it's a really interesting issue
 

Sectionfive

bandwagon house
no vinyl but DJing at it finest :D


watch out of battle from 14mins ooof

Few DJs can play - rinsed - fifteen year old records like they are brand new every time. and in a way that creates hype off hype rather then recognition .

mad stuff
 
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