Iowa Primary

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
interMittent update:

-romney crushes santorum again, in both WI + MD, near certain nominee
-apr 24 next big date. 5 states. mitt will easily win CT, RI + DE, probably NY too. more than ever santorum must win PA + make strong showing in NY.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
From this point - why is Santorum still in the race? What's the upside for him (and same question for anyone else other than Romney who is still competing)?
 

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
^they're hoping mitt falls short of the 1144 delegate threshold (still feasible, if pretty unlikely). if that happens, open convention, newt gives his delegates to rick s in return for a cabinet position or something. that has to be what newt's been banking on all this time (well, or his gargantuan ego) + what rick s is now.
 

Bangpuss

Well-known member
It's also kind of a tradition that the winner at least considers his closest rival in the primaries to be his running mate. But the way this campaign has been fought, along with ideological bridges neither of them would be willing to build, I can't see Romney offering Santorum a place on the ticket while the guy still has a hole in his ass. For Santorum, the closer he gets to Romney, the more money he'll be able to raise for the campaign next time around. All the 'smart' Republicans have apparently written off 2012 already, just like a lot of Labour supporters have written off the next election with Red Ed as leader.

Incidentally, did anyone see the BBC documentary about Mormonism, by the same guy who lost his rag with Scientologists a few years back? I didn't realise Mormonism was so controlling and cult-like. Apparently the young Mitt Romney wasn't just a run-of-the-mill Mormon, he was a fucking BISHOP! There was an interview with this woman who became pregnant out of wedlock. She appealed to Wizard, sorry Bishop Romney, and asked what she should do. He basically told her, give it up for adoption or get your slutty ass out of the church.
 

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
^to no one's surprise

at least considers his closest rival
yeah not happening this time (tho don't always happen anyway - GW + mccain in 00, clinton + jerry brown in 92, etc)

the more money he'll be able to raise for the campaign next time around
that ain't happening either. everyone, including his supporters, agrees he's totally unelectable. he'll never get establishment $ or backing, + if the tea party/evangelical right/etc couldn't force him through against the weakest GOP nominee in 50 years it just ain't happening. especially in 4 years when the GOP field will be loaded with charismatic (i.e. un-mitt like) guys - christie, jeb, rubio maybe - who can stare down santorum on conservatism but w/o any of his craziness or overt bigotry.
 

padraig (u.s.)

a monkey that will go ape
+ as far as mormonism it is interesting that it's been a total non-issue - neither (unlike jfk's in 1960) was santorum's catholicism - and there are many, many fucked up +/or bizarre up things about mormonism but, yunno, welcome to religion in general. the megachurch focus on the family evangelicalism that propped up santorum is worse in plenty of ways.
 

jcadge

New member
gingrich's campaign is also pretty broke, making him unable to fight back in ads in a strong and timely manner, or travel around like he needs to.

also, as the economy starts to get a little better and the obama administration gets into it with religious leaders over birth control/insurance coverage, the GOP has shifted to social issues (aka the cultural wars), which is santorum's sweet spot.
What do you think is happening these days with birth control? I think it is worse now..
 

luka

Well-known member
Staff member
What do you think is happening these days with birth control? I think it is worse now..
Me too. I hear nowadays they just read the Lord's Prayer backwards to the unborn baby while invoking Satan till it shrivels up and dies.
 

Leo

Well-known member
As conservative megadonor (and at the time Santorum superPAC head) Foster Friess once said, "You know, back in my days, they used Bayer aspirin for contraception. The gals put it between their knees, and it wasn’t that costly.”
 
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