droid

Beast of Burden
Melancholy and a kind of plaintive yearning are the primary colours of the 90's emotronica canon.
 

woops

is not like other people
"Melancholy is the pleasure of sadness" someone said, I always liked that line.

It's not depression that's different. Ultimate inevitability of total doom and all that I would differentiate but I am not a psychiatrist etc.

Melancholy and a kind of plaintive yearning are the primary colours of the 90's emotronica canon.

Could be my favourite music? I'm always on about that on here.

(I'd say try listening to my old stuff but no one would, this is Dissensus after all)

Maybe thirdform is just incapable of it, and has never felt it, has a different "humour" perhaps? I don't see why that should be a bad thing. Just different to me.
 

luka

Well-known member
Staff member
Very much the pleasure of sadness. It is because it is so pleasurable that I quite fancy having it back as long as there is no price tag attached
 

woops

is not like other people
Very much the pleasure of sadness. It is because it is so pleasurable that I quite fancy having it back as long as there is no price tag attached

the price tag is probably the sadness part
 

droid

Beast of Burden
Sorry, the A minor key. A huge amount of the best 90's electronica is in A minor or D minor (known as the 'saddest' key). A musician friend of mine told me this was the easiest key for non-musicians to play in on the black keys.
 

CrowleyHead

Well-known member
In what way does melancholy strive for a pure ideal? Im not sure of that. It's a feeling. Does it necessarily have a logic?

It's not a pure ideal, it's a notion. That's why the whole drive of solving the hyperconservative nostalgist impulse with Logic is impossible. Melancholia is an illogic because it's a feeling based on notions. The problem is we often convince ourselves that the detraction of these notions away from absolutism is leading us astray, into chaotic objectivism.
 

luka

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Staff member
It's not a pure ideal, it's a notion. That's why the whole drive of solving the hyperconservative nostalgist impulse with Logic is impossible. Melancholia is an illogic because it's a feeling based on notions. The problem is we often convince ourselves that the detraction of these notions away from absolutism is leading us astray, into chaotic objectivism.

What is a notion Crowley? I am not familiar with this word. At least not in this particular context?
 

luka

Well-known member
Staff member
I can't understand a single sentence of that paragraph. I would like to but it is not written in English. It is written in Crowleyese, a language only you have the key to. You have to be more patient with us and write in language we understand.

I need to know what a notion is. That is in no way clear.

I need to know what on earth the hyperconservative nostalgist impulse might be. I have never heard of this organisation.

I need to know what drive intends to 'solve' the hyperconservative nostalgist impulse.

I need to know what solve means in this context.

I need to know why it can't be solved with logic.

I need to know what an illogic is.

I need to know what a feeling based on notions could possibly be.

I need to know why it's status as a feeling based on notions confirms it as an illogic.

The last sentence is too convoluted and obscure to even tease apart into its constituent elements.

There is a problem, the problem in fact, and it lies in convincing ourselves of something or other.

I can't figure out what we are convincing ourselves of. I also don't have the faintest idea what chaotic objectivism is.

Can you please help me out a little bit? I am lost.
 
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