Disruption.

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"You know what anarchists have always believed.... The urge to destroy is a creative urge... This is also the hallmark of capitalist thought. Enforced destruction. Old industries have to be harshly eliminated. New markets have to be forcibly claimed. Old markets have to be re-exploited. Destroy the past, make the future."
 

luka

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The disruptor is a kind of dual saviour/destroyer of the type represented by Sean Connery in Zardoz, John the Savage in Brave New World, Shevek in The Disposessed.
 

sadmanbarty

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globalisation is all about removing disruption. disruption is at times an almost consciously symbolic attack on globalisation

the lasting legacy of 9/11 to most westerners is disrupted air travel.

the fear for manufacturers after brexit is disrupted supply chains.

disruption at calais and the irish boarder.
 

luka

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globalisation is all about removing disruption. disruption is at times an almost consciously symbolic attack on globalisation

the lasting legacy of 9/11 to most westerners is disrupted air travel.

the fear for manufacturers after brexit is disrupted supply chains.

disruption at calais and the irish boarder.
Th danger of disrupting a neurotic personality in therapy. The neurosis is a system which works, after a fashion, it holds the self together.
 

sadmanbarty

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just to say it for the millionth time, the rhythmic language of rap for the last few years has been about distilling the aesthetic of disruption and interruption. rap that sounds like it hasn't buffered properly and keeps stopping and spluttering .
 

luka

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just to say it for the millionth time, the rhythmic language of rap for the last few years has been about distilling the aesthetic of disruption and interruption. rap that sounds like it hasn't buffered properly and keeps stopping and spluttering .
Glitch rap. Autechre.
 

luka

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globalisation is all about removing disruption. disruption is at times an almost consciously symbolic attack on globalisation

the lasting legacy of 9/11 to most westerners is disrupted air travel.

the fear for manufacturers after brexit is disrupted supply chains.

disruption at calais and the irish boarder.
Obvious but globalisation was also disruption, upheaval, the systematic erasure of whole sections of Britains economy
 

luka

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The rhetoric is often self serving but the principle I don't necessarily object to. Often you just have two cartels going to war. For instance black cab drivers vs uber.
 

sadmanbarty

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system vs personality.

roland smith had a clever thing saying that the eu is more a set of rules than it is a political entity and as such it's inflexible because it operates like a system rather than a more conventional, malleable political entity.

he points out that eurosceptics realised this (and thus became eurosceptic), but have then forgotten it when trying to deal with the eu and are thus trying to operate politically (negotiate with individual member states, boris' optimism, threats, showing your serious about no deal) even though the eu inherently can't do so.
 

luka

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system vs personality.

roland smith had a clever thing saying that the eu is more a set of rules than it is a political entity and as such it's inflexible because it operates like a system rather than a more conventional, malleable political entity.

he points out that eurosceptics realised this (and thus became eurosceptic), but have then forgotten it when trying to deal with the eu and are thus trying to operate politically (negotiate with individual member states, boris' optimism, threats, showing your serious about no deal) even though the eu inherently can't do so.
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Eurosceptic argument - as it was - held together rather well around a single unifying idea: that the UK could not historically, culturally, spiritually, politically go where the EU is heading....to (crudely) "a country called Europe".

Thread.... /1
http://www.dissensus.com/showthread.php?t=14926&page=3&p=394477#post394477
 

Corpsey

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The Internet is the great disruptor.

And not only DDOS attacks.

It turned everything upsidedown.
 

poetix

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I read Shevek less as a trickster figure - he doesn't have in any sense the "force of personality", the unpredictable charisma, the untethered eros - and more as a figure of rathere austere autistic disconnection, almost egoless or at least without a strong social selfhood. He has no sense whatsoever of rank or clout. This is what enables him to move between social systems, almost equally inassimilable to both Anarres and Urras. Although a doctrinally committed Odonian, he doesn't actually have an Odonian "spirit" - his form of commitment, to the limit-point of an idea, breaks with any mutualist conception of how knowledge is created or for whom.

Another SF narrative about an individual who acts as a wildcard within their society is Arthur C. Clarke's The City And The Stars, which I always loved.
 

luka

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I read Shevek less as a trickster figure - he doesn't have in any sense the "force of personality", the unpredictable charisma, the untethered eros - and more as a figure of rathere austere autistic disconnection, almost egoless or at least without a strong social selfhood. He has no sense whatsoever of rank or clout. This is what enables him to move between social systems, almost equally inassimilable to both Anarres and Urras. Although a doctrinally committed Odonian, he doesn't actually have an Odonian "spirit" - his form of commitment, to the limit-point of an idea, breaks with any mutualist conception of how knowledge is created or for whom.

Another SF narrative about an individual who acts as a wildcard within their society is Arthur C. Clarke's The City And The Stars, which I always loved.
None of the people named are tricksters. Quite the opposite.
 

luka

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They disrupt by dint of who they are. this is what I notice you said either 'nerds' or autistics (I've forgotten which) do to society at large. Disrupt by their very nature rather than by intent.
 
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