Was half hoping the KLF thread would cover some of this. But as padraig (u.s.) so bluntly said in there, no one seems to really care. Or do they? Imo culture jamming ala the KLF is a vital part (of what should be many angles) of ongoing resistance. And imo, its different to what goes on on 4chan. Need to think a bit more before committing to a definition though. I just know that there are types of resistance that give me a sense of hope (KLF) and others (4chan) that pretty much do the opposite. Was talking irl to some people about the old changing the world thing with music. There was a time when people believed in music and art as instruments of change. Our saviour. Wake us up. Bring about the new age. I think it did do a lot of good work (Sly Stone, Fela, Bob for eg.) But that attitude expects a switch to be switched and then we'll all be better, ignoring the fact that the battle between the two opposing forces is perpetual. We came to the conclusion that it's not about changing the world, defeating evil for once and for all. It's about keeping the fires burning. Being a messenger. Can feel the eyes rolling as I type. Even my own eyes. But is that it? We just gave up? The social justice movements going on right now are inspiring, and it's great to see regular people coming together and taking action. But, it's fuelled by so much anger. And not that that's always a bad thing. But it's dangerous because it's so easily used against itself. It's righteous anger, yes. But as any professional fighter will tell you, don't go into the ring angry. And what about when that anger dies down? Let's get back to normal? Or what if it's perpetually stoked by the unravelling of society?