Not a joke. I think I've been mixing these up all my life. I get that AD originated in France and IM in US (apparently) but if I see a building, ornament etc how do I know which it is?
What do you mean? What do we call modernist aesthetically?Thanks @Rudewhy, a distinction I was not aware of.
Didn't even know International Modernism was a thing, frankly. How much of what we call modernist, aesthetically, is traced back to this? Was anything lost along the way? Was any baggage picked up, along the way, that wasn't sent by the progenitors of modernism? You know, connotational baggage?
This is kinda what I thought... but if you look it up its the other way round. Art deco started in France and Arte Moderne in the US.From my very limited understanding, Art Deco was, if not originally American....
Whereas international modernism was associated with the Bauhaus school....
Certainly the teardrop thing sounds like what I think of as art deco.If Art Deco has its roots in France, Art Moderne (also known as American Moderne or Modernist) is native to the United States, dating approximately from the early 1930s and lasting until the 1940s. And it shares many of the qualities associated with the country in that period: bigger, bolder, and brassier—literally.
Think of Art Moderne as Art Deco on steroids. Art Deco placed an emphasis on shape and absence of superfluity, but Moderne was positively streamlined (a hot new scientific theory of the time: the shaping of objects along curving lines to cut wind resistance and make them move more efficiently). The furniture is much more pared or stripped down, making all the more prominent its geometric outline (especially beloved: a swelling curve, like a teardrop or torpedo). Moderne designers often conceived pieces as a series of escalating levels—breakfronts were big—similar to a staircase or the setback effect of those newfangled skyscrapers that were arising in every city. Some of Moderne's most iconic pieces, designed by Paul Frankl, were actually called "Skyscraper" furniture.
i dont know what the popular understanding isI mean whatever we call modernist aesthetically, but I had architecture in mind, given this thread. I have a pretty blunt understanding of it, and was curious as to how the popular understanding of modernism lines up with the ideas of its initial practitioners. Does the common sense of the word do justice to the original ideas