Max/MSP

[thirdform]

the live coding stuff has potential once it gets into the hands of noise makers rather than comp sci nerds.

 

[woops]

i saw you posted some live coding live show on faceboook thirdform and i found it pretty unlistenable, can't remember the name of the artist though, think he was in japan or something. just clunky noises with no groove or continuity and i have a pretty high tolerance for weird noises

 

[pattycakes_]

Just because you can...

 

[muser]

I feel there is still a lot of scope for new ways of making music, especially in live performance, rhythm, micro-tonal , audio / visual and algorithmic stuff. I think it may have made things like granular synthesis more ubiquitous in modern sound design, I hear it all the time in movies, TV etc (Devs for example) . But it isn't accessible enough to create any real shifts or changes in how music is made imo.

You could draw comparisons to people like Chris carter making his own sound generators or people messing with huge modular racks. I think it's very rare you have someone willing to spend the time working at such a low-level who also can put the time in to create decent creative output.

Max/msp working with live was kind of addressing this in a way I think because it allowed people to get access to the patches being made but it's still a bit clunky for any end user who isn't used to max.

I spent years messing with it, made this algorithmic synth that uses cellular automata and granular synthesis to make weird noises. Once I finished that project I pretty much never opened it again, just takes way too long to get anything done.

 

[muser]

There's algorhythmic music. Generative stuff. Nothing new ofc, but there's a big push to evolve it to lifelike. I used to be dead against it, but now feel it's actually going to be fun to see if it can pull of something undiscernable in a blind test. So far the results aren't even in the uncanny valley. But imagine if you could put in some parameters like Jaki Liebezeit drums, Prince guitars, Juan Atkins arpeggios, Bernie Worrell basslines and Aphex pads, you set the group mind parameter to a strong dose LSD and set the colour purple as a mood guide.

I think this kind of stuff is exciting and has a lot of potential, algorithmic music, neural networks , ai etc but when youre getting to that level of development whoever is capable would probably find max too limiting and just prefer straight up coding as opposed to the visual / object format of max

 

[version]

i saw you posted some live coding live show on faceboook thirdform and i found it pretty unlistenable, can't remember the name of the artist though, think he was in japan or something. just clunky noises with no groove or continuity and i have a pretty high tolerance for weird noises

Renick Bell?

 

[luka]

The algorithmic comes into its own on,y once you acknowledge it has a purpose

 

[luka]

I understood this once I realised I could only enjoy prynnes late works by understanding they were addressed explicitly to me