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Corpsey

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I've got that documentary about Richter which shows him painting some sort of incomprehensible piece of shit and talking about it very persuasively so in the end you can't tell if it is a piece of shit or if you're just a peasant.

 

Corpsey

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"He remakes Vermeer's Girl Reading a Letter at an Open Window, not only hazing it up but also, vitally, replacing the letter the original figure holds in her fingers – a unique, hand-written article with one addressee – with a newspaper: an impersonal, mass-produced media object. Blurring up Titian's Annunciation, he turns the image into what, for 99% of its viewers, it already was: a reproduction of a reproduction, a third-generation bootleg."

wowww
 

Corpsey

call me big papa
I do like some of the paintings I've seen by him.

Actually this reminds me of when I watched that doc about modern art and it's entanglement with money and was left absolutely disgusted by the art market/world, BUT then right at the end they just showed paintings by all these artists you've just been feeling poisonous towards because they're fawned over by billionaires and I thought wow these artists are really good actually.

I think (I can't recall) somethibg similar happens watching that Richter doc. The whole time you're watching him very laboriously and in agony painting what looks like a big grey smudge but at the end you have to admit "that guy's the fuhrer"
 

luka

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I've got that documentary about Richter which shows him painting some sort of incomprehensible piece of shit and talking about it very persuasively so in the end you can't tell if it is a piece of shit or if you're just a peasant.

Richter is fucking awful. So bad. A Nazi imo
 

luka

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My friend works for the RA and took me round the big Richter exhibition and I was honestly appalled. Really horrified actually. I honk it's very very bad, pernicious, I really am violently opposed to it. I think it's a cancer.
 

luka

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But this is stuff you will only understand if you are a practicing artist operating at a very high level. I certainly wouldn't expect you plebs to understand
 

Corpsey

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But this is stuff you will only understand if you are a practicing artist operating at a very high level. I certainly wouldn't expect you plebs to understand
When you say things like this it makes me uncertain as to whether or not I should take anything you say (about Richter, and generally) seriously at all.

If you were appalled and horrified FRFR, please explain why with accompanying diagrams.
 

Corpsey

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These, for example - in the flesh they're probably more impressive (I think they might be on display in the Tate Modern but OTOH that could be another three almost identical pieces of shit) but there's still really nothing to say about them without reference to program notes, is there?

You might say I've not got much of a leg to stand on here as I went to an Anselm Kiefer exhibition in London and was bowled over by his incomprehensible daubs of shit but I actually think you could make more of his shitdaubs, they represented a recognisable landscape, they had some sort of emotional power to them (but only in the flesh, massively scaled).
 

constant escape

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There are julie mehretu, chuck close, and kehinde wiley paintings I like
Pretty sure my grandmother (Betye Saar) is represented by the same gallery as Wiley. They had a section at Expo Chicago a couple years back, and I was able to hang out there and talk to prospective buyers. Anyway, there was a Wiley painting, a portrait of a man holding a skull, which I believe was referencing a famous painting, but I don't know which.
 

suspendedreason

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Pretty sure my grandmother (Betye Saar) is represented by the same gallery as Wiley. They had a section at Expo Chicago a couple years back, and I was able to hang out there and talk to prospective buyers. Anyway, there was a Wiley painting, a portrait of a man holding a skull, which I believe was referencing a famous painting, but I don't know which.
Oh so the Aunt Jemima cancellation was personal to you
 

luka

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You people don't know the difference between a painting and an image and it makes me very very sad
 
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