The New American Folk Canon

Add 2008 crash and American depression compounding a mournful soant

From a US blogging pov, Lovefingers brought a huge range of acts into focus while reprising older artists too, without the British influence/fixation on “is it Balearic?”, paving the way for so many beard equivalents

Havent been in the US for a decade plus and the world and the country specifically have changed significantly since

in 2150 it will def be this no question

and this

sus said:

It's a great question

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It will be Latins by sheer demographic change alone.

sus said:

I guess stripped-down tracks are more likely to enter folk canon (tradition of noncanonical reproductions, variants) solely by dint of being easier to cover. And the long tradition of standards traditions in solo singersongwriter/ troubador/ blues traditions.

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@luka 's favourite, with the demographic changes in eastern Europe, this will def be in there.

I've been to the future.
In 50 - 100 years the most popular folk music will be made with an array of Japanese joist hangars tuned and manufactured to resonate at different frequencies.
Why Japanese you ask?
well, cause the american ones just sound dull in comparison.

I don't even need to mention the unfortunate chain of events that this is going to set off with massive trade wars which will prompt various recessions and depressions which will just drive the Japanese joist hanger folksters even more, giving even more passion to their music, and so we experience a vicious circle.

lol noone even cares about that music today let alone in 125 years time.

it would be like posting my favourite deep house or rare groove cuts, I would be in rapturous ecstasy but folk music they aren't.

or even more, Barnet grime that only @Ach! seems to have rhapsodised about but even the original crews don't remember making.

sus said:

Yeah Flightless Bird American Mouth could def make it

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thirdform said:

lol noone even cares about that music today let alone in 125 years time.

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Maybe not here but ”over there” with a litany of fake myths a century and a half from now?

Possibly

Trying to define potentialities is easier if ‘memorable’ is scaled from sheer contemporary sales numbers at the time of release, plus paving (part of) the way for an era of appalling mandolin-heavy coffee shop themed beardy mumblings

In the same vein you could add the fake cheer and bonhomie of the whistling chorus within “Home”, a track by fuck knows who which seemed to be everywhere either ‘09 or ‘10 (last period in-country), might not even be called Home but to show willing and deploy an aural EpiPen for anyone here it be



Again, profiling what should/shouldn’t or could/couldnt be revived or worshiped 150 years from now is a fool’s errand and isn’t down to personal taste, more the collective memory of a faint, poorly defined pseudo-folk revival a la Jose Gonzales and Killing For Love (deployed here with the Terje mix because the alternative is collective anaphylactic shock for all and underneath the rage none of you deserve that shit)

Murphy said:

Maybe not here but ”over there” with a litany of fake myths a century and a half from now?

Possibly

Trying to define potentialities is easier if ‘memorable’ is scaled from sheer contemporary sales numbers at the time of release, plus paving (part of) the way for an era of appalling mandolin-heavy coffee shop themed beardy mumblings

In the same vein you could add the fake cheer and bonhomie of the whistling chorus within “Home”, a track by fuck knows who which seemed to be everywhere either ‘09 or ‘10 (last period in-country), might not even be called Home but to show willing and deploy an aural EpiPen for anyone here it be



Again, profiling what should/shouldn’t or could/couldnt be revived or worshiped 150 years from now is a fool’s errand and isn’t down to personal taste, more the collective memory of a faint, poorly defined pseudo-folk revival a la Jose Gonzales and Killing For Love (deployed here with the Terje mix because the alternative is collective anaphylactic shock for all and underneath the rage none of you deserve that shit)

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He's trying to pre-empt it, but we all know that in 2150 America's national language will be some kind of hybrid between spanish and serbian.



Still, I have to applaud the man for solving Katharine Birbalsingh. English no longer the real property of England (the other colonies never counted.) A real proletarian hero.

thirdform said:

lol noone even cares about that music today let alone in 125 years time.

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remember when sea shanties were popular for a bit, a few years ago, in the social media cycle?

i'm getting ready for the next cycle - I'll be rich and famous

shakahislop said:

not the same as what you’re saying jungle/d&b have become folk music in the England. in the sense that it’s a long lived music accompanied by a set of practices and is country-specific and subset specific. in the summer where I’m from every now and then there’s a soundsysten set up in a pub garden or at carnival and everyone knows what to do

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"everyone knows what to do" sounds ominous
is this some kind of modern "wicker man" thing, but the music updated from folk to modern British bass music?

Sea shanties were Brits facing a worldwide health crisis plumbing a collective song mythos looking for something, anything, that would confirm said crisis was only happening to someone else

Wife is in bed and have gone through the first few I&W lp’s on Discogs looking for a specific track - only one I could hum into vocaroo if anyone is that into it but not while legally medicated, not for the first night with Big Narstie. It’s featured a bunch in tv shit, thought I’d caught a whiff of a memory from True Detective s1 but was way off ie Vashti Bunyan haa

YT links more ltd than envisaged. Fuck you WiningandRust, it’s a humming melody. YT links dropping out will be a great unlearning process in itself. Create a playlist and watch them slowly blink out. Masses of music won’t survive to be passed on at this rate to even be selected

As much as it pains me, a profile like Billy Strings mixing whatever you call his schtick might be an unfortunate bridge with the more upbeat folky side of Grateful Dead covers, even southern murder ballads, but nowhere near familiar enough with contemporary equivalents for hazard to banish timidity. Jack Johnson is too lol, reminds me of boating along southern Maryland with local alcoholic wannabe hipsters

'The Next Episode' might be one. I imagine loads of people know it's Dre, but there are also loads who just know "smoke weed everyday" and the beat from memes and edits.

Mr. Dylan how would you define folk music?

As a constitutional re-play of mass production.

Would you call your songs "folk songs"?

No.