Spendy learns about poetry and luke and woops and benny and jenks help teach him things
sus
Moderator
Not too late jenks you can come here and school a young whippersnapper. I've been thinking about rhythm a lot, meter, where it comes from, how natural it is, how much it varies across languages.
Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
My favorite passage from vegetable empire, stops me in my tracks every time.
Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
I imagine an unsuspecting, bumbling tourist receiving that gem and it spiraling them into a state of sublime dissociation.
pattycakes_
Can turn naughty
@Clinamenic going super saiyan damn son
Clinamenic
Binary & Tweed
As luke knows my deep capacity for cruelty and pettiness is perhaps my most human characteristic
pattycakes_
Can turn naughty
Is there no end to your savagery
jenks
thread death
I think a lot about rhythm and structure when I teach poetry - mainly because so often students just want to talk about the 'meaning' rather than the manner in which it is written - the shaped and structured nature of a text.
In terms of how 'natural' it is - well, my guess is that it was essential when poetry first started - the necessity of rhythm as a memory device for the bards to be able to learn long poems/sagas.
In terms of now - in English verse reading there has definitely a move to a more 'natural' reading voice for poetry and most evident in the way Shakespeare's verse is read aloud - if you listen to old poets and actors there was definitely a more declamatory voice - something that sounds jarring to a modern ear. The idea that iambic patterns are more in keeping with conversational English has become a truism but reading the blank verse of Wordsworth against the same form by Frost feels very different rhythmically. Obviously the French tradition is different - based on syllables - @woops can correct me if i am wrong on this and i think this is partly based on the different stress patterning of individual languages.