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And yet commodity production exists in all of the countries you listed, and even existed in the USSR. Which again goes back to my point from upthread. If you want to argue that commodity production appears to be the end of human history to us, then this is also a progressive teleology. You...

yeah and I've got bits of Arab, Iranian, and probably Armenian ancestry. Still a brutal Turk to the west, still a reprobate and a scoundrel Kurdish southerner to the Turkish state.

no, I speak clearly (how else could the Turk be brutal?) but you are English.

yes, that's my point. they study it within the social relations of their modern societies.

no, marxism is a sword, not a skeleton key. I clearly have not made you understand anything I am saying.

what I've been trying to communicate to you for the past 3 billion days is what you think is ostensibly neutral and can be said to have an objective underlying structure is actually shaped by this fight to the death.

no, because you are an agnostic.

I actually thought about this the other week. I asked grok to answer with one word without equivocating on the Israeli palestinian conflict about who is in the right, and it answered with Israel. We will revolt when the computerised technologies of America and the European bloc go to war with...

ok. please explain how the Burgundians carried out sociology and the fundamentals of Burgundian sociological tradition.

there is no such thing as a post-ideological science, and that includes many people calling themselves Marxists. whatever you write under capitalism will inarguably be shaped by its social relations, it's political concepts, linguistic terms, etc etc. Even histories of the umayyad caliphate...

no you couldn't.

I thought I answered this, the lack of a laic republican culture in this country. As for hall and co, due to their predominant concerns with youth and cultures of the working classes, they are necessary but not sufficient to forming traditions on the level of Weber, Durkheim, Parsons, etc. I...

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But marxism is the science of human social relationships, whereas sociology is the science of the social relationships of capitalist society as the end of history (fukuyama.) So of an order of magnitude, marxism is superior to sociology, even though in the future it too will be relativised by...

Someone like Denis Skinner would not have been at all controversial in any European republic. It's because our political culture is so out of joint that he seemed funny.

In this sense it is quite interesting that Britain has no real sociological tradition and gets most of its syllabuses from the french, german and American traditions. You need republicanism or at least a certain disdain for the traditions and customes of the old aristocracy, and a struggle...

I mean they have always been interconnected and interpenetrated each other. Sociology can't escape the old metaphysical method of separate antinomies and thus is relegated to being academic analysis in the sense that it is how the intelligentsia understands itself. Which again, isn't a...

I think the view of society as being comprised of separate ecosystems only makes sense within the logic of sociology. Outside of that it's a cold statistical method that has no use.

yep, that's why I asked. back in the day crowl used to rib me that corpsey would listen to xenakis and would have no need for AE. But I was right.

marvellous. I wonder what inaugurated his dangerous liaisons