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Actually something I could definitely say re: the thread is that the bonus tracks on the recentish reissue / remaster of this are excellent.

It's not very outdoors but there's a little enclosed courtyard out back which might be pleasant on a balmy night. Also means if you smoke you don't have to stand on Highgate Rd. Oh and they seem to change up the ales and ciders almost weekly so there's always something to try, though there are...

Anyone going to the shows at The Forum coming up? I'm probably not but should be quite a thing, eh? Inc. Comus, Andrew WK, Sasha Grey...

I know you all live in the groovy / louche corners of London but you really should try and have a pint at the Southampton Arms in NW5 some time, it's one of the area's saving graces, along with Hampstead Heath. You're missing out I tell you.

Huxley was of course referencing the ancient Soma.

Probably best if they reply to that themsevels. But still, I don't think lanugo was targeting the drugs as such, more suggesting that allowing their use would be a cynical move by the powers of Capitalism or the NWO or something. But fuck I don't know, it's not my argument and I didn't say it...

Yes I suggest the government scales back Trident, it's rubbish. I recommend Tom's Of Maine with Tea Tree and Aloe Vera

In the description of that study they seem to be suggesting that they think the trip is part of it. I don't think anyone here has suggested that science is capitalistic in itself. Lanugo said something about how some drugs could be 'co-opted' as pacifiers but, oh wait droid already said that...

The link is still there. God, am I just being cruel now?

In your FACE, Huxley. (yes they were talking about fictional Soma)

I know all those things. In fact that means people were using psilocybin before scientists were around, depending on your definition. I suppose shamans were probably the first scientists. You said : Am I just being pedantic in saying that scientists didn't develop psilocybin? (I'm all for it...

I don't think scientists developed psilocybin. But the news here is that they are once again allowed to research the use of those compounds and are doing so in a sensible way, no? Maybe that's one way it works. Can you get a prescription for it?

Can I mention this here: http://thespiritmolecule.com/gDMT.html

I think E can be good on a sort of emotional therapy level but I'm not sure if it can ever really 'take you to the other side' by itself. Along with 8-12 hours of dancing, yes. But all those profound experiences really don't have anything to do with the drugs as such, the drugs just help you to...

This isn't true. Of course you can use meditation and yoga for relaxation, that's great - no bad thing in my book. But these things are not, and never were about 'leaving all worldly affairs behind.', at all. There are much quicker and easier ways of doing that if that's what you want to do!

There is that, but as droid and tea say, a psychedelic experience can go beyond that. Mind you, I would also say that those experiences are available without drugs, but drugs can be a much quicker route if you need convincing.

Is that a criticism of 'Zen' zhao? Do you think it's fair to say that was a result of some kind of huge misappropriation, or a problem with taking things out of context*. Or rather that fascist ideologues found ways of interpreting certain Zen notions that bolstered or offered them...

Yeah - the natural desire or need to experience oneself as part of a greater whole can be diverted. But in the case of fascism it's not really absence of ego at all - rather a result of ego projecting it's struggle to maintain an incorrect (delusional) sense of self in the face of vast evidence...

Sometimes without even being asked! ;) I think one of the things Albert H. was researching when he synthesised LSD-25 was migraine treatments.

Well the ego returns, of course, and the reintegration process is important. The study linked above seems fairly sensible as these things go.