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I think it's just easier to trace homage when there's a paper trail. Or rather, a data trail.

TBF they are in fact overrated. It's just not their fault.

Do you count madchester shit in that b/c this: <iframe width="547" height="413" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/4DjWpq8Oyoc" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe> feels mandatory.

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To be fair we're at the point where there's multiple generations of Dissensus users. I know of at least two Gen Z people for sure, obviously there's a Gen X/Millennial stratification here too.

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For me it usually involves the 'branded collabo' phase. It's particularly modern but you see this a lot. Someone (magazine, actual corporation, whomever) puts two acts who don't naturally gravitate towards one another together to tell one another how cool they are and encourages them to work...

Third is now the spraybottle to you, the scalded cat of the forum. I need only brandish his name...

About to queue the thirdform klaxon to seize on you for the sheer corniness here.

Well you also can't listen to OFB so you've proven to have your limits.

<iframe width="600" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/SGVHhGIJK5o" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe> Remembered this record recently which is v. much a proto-BK Drill record w Desiigner on it...

Yeah the Wiz tune is sampling a Mac Demarco record which is cribbing that melody from a japanese rock record Travis & Co are probably sampling directly. <iframe width="342" height="192" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/NY8IS0ssnXQ" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay...

Also have to put in Scrappy Doo <iframe width="800" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/MTAtDpe89b4" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe> Please refrain from any Trim comparisons please.

Anyway since v. little of the thread has had rappers besides Smoke in here <iframe width="1129" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/DvfCnDK4KMg" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe> <iframe...

I mean the beats were really good. I don't think the 'grimey' (as in Garage, not say Onyx) sort of bass-licks are something your AVERAGE New Yorker were acquainted with and like Abra who I compared him too p. quickly there is an obv. vocal character. But I wasn't so interested in his vocal...

I like some of it, but it's hit a kind of weird rough patch. I'm not into Pop Smoke admittedly. It's also weird because there's a lot of disparate camps in NYC rap (the weirder alt-backpacker stuff, Queens swag rap, LES/Harlem dark alt-rap) and so it's bizarre that it was a relative late comer...

Touching.

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Yeah his strength is really the Jetson beats for me. There's a sense of fun which is cool but it's also a sort of... I note Corpse being like "YEAH MAN, BASS IN HIS VOICE, NO AUTOTUNE!" and you see he fulfills a sort of comfort food for older rap fans who suffer from burn out (Megan thee...