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and to drag things back down to politics for a second, these things are coded as they are because 'surrender' (on the male side) and 'will' (on the female side) is a threat to masculine dominance (apologies to everyone else having to witness a chimp being taught about feminism) BY GEORGE I...

well aesthetically you're saying that if music is too much about the will or too much about surrender its as boring as a room full of blokey blokes or girly girls

Do I get at least a B+

I think you're suggesting that music allows people to experience or reconcile themselves to states of being that are socially coded as being 'inappropriate' to their gender (/sex). In other words, music allows us to experience (ideally without shame) the full gamut of human experience and...

Nah I deeply regret starting this thread It's going to spiral and become a circle of hell

I think what eden might be missing is that you described the poles as being 'coded masculine/feminine' not as 'masculine/feminine'. I think eden thinks YOU'RE coding them (as in assigning them) masculine/feminine.

Redemptive wordplay idea: 'FEMININE PRESSURE' = ALSO THE PRESSURE WOMEN FEEL TO BE FEMININE/MEN FEEL TO BE MASCULINE'

I don't know what i was thinking creating this thread actually because its bound to turn into a 30 page argument like the its great when you're straight thread I guess I was just interested in the recent shift I've noticed (perhaps illusory) towards female DJs in house/techno, and wondering if...

OTOH without the jazzy bastards there'd be no drum breaks to pilfer in the first place

Yes I agree - perhaps so risky that it's bound to shipwreck any such thread as this... Wait til Jordan Peterson sees this thread. :eek:

Found this interesting from a Gruniad article on the subject of female/male musical taste https://www.theguardian.com/music/2008/feb/20/popandrock.news If we are to cautiously agree that women are more at ease with discussing emotions, and therefore more comfortable with the idea of embracing...

I've been thinking about starting a thread like this for a while but since it's International Women's Day today it seems apt to start it now. The idea is a thread to highlight music written/performed by women, and also to discuss stuff relating to gender in music, such as representation in...

one might say it was the... logical progression ba-dum-tsch-tsch-tsch-ba-dum-dum-tsch-tsch-tsch-ba-dum-ba-ba-b-ba-ba-dum-tsch *saxophone note*

FYI the hardcore continuum died when jazzy bastards invaded it and started talking about snare patterns

methinks the luka doth protest too much

i owned 'damage' by black flag back in the days when i wanted to be a punk and i never really liked it that much so its interesting/vindicating to see fans of this stuff saying that album's not as good as earlier stuff i sometimes wish i liked black flag more so i could get their logo tattooed...

I'll see your John and raise you a Paul

Just had a look at their website - it's hideous

I know I've asked this sort of thing a lot before but with road rap, say, where are the spaces/lines of communication? Are there forums, magazines, hubs? Or is it all Youtube/Facebook/Twitter?

oh i see what you mean i probably should actually listen to one of barty's youtube posts