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For the sake of discussion I'll play devil's advocate to this commonly stated view about the social/outward implications of broken beat ^^^ : :D Since Im not from the UK, the endless (and endlessly tedious) comments about this being aspirant west end cognoscenti-wannabees or whatever just goes...

Yep, have known about this since mid-December. Carlos Giffoni booked them for this year's No Fun festival, have had my tickets for a while now. :D

rockism alert! Haha, no, I'm joking with you, because I completely agree with you, completely. However, I do think that the person who goes into noise through rockstar-emulation in the hope of a little glory and ego-infusion, he gets weeded out pretty quickly. Maybe I'm being overly...

Oh yeah I agree with this one hundred percent. No doubt whatsoever. The album art, the propensity to name your project 'penile smasher ballsack parachute' or whatever, the preponderance of cliches just like any other genre, the beards, the almost complete and total ignorance of the traditions...

And also, for sure, the whole generational thing, and geographico-historical distribution, is yet another topic. Whitehouse getting bottled on stage years ago sounds familiar. If you talk to the noise folks, they'll tell you that in '99-'03 when they were touring, they were often met by...

The current popularity of noise in the NE US also has a lot to do with the indisputable fact that a lot of people really enjoy making it. It's fun, and instantly weird and wonderful for a lot of people. As is typically said 'round these parts, in the last generation, if you wanted to make...

Ahh yes, a much discussed topic: the popularity of noise these days - I can't speak for everywhere, but for my region I can say that there are a number of reasons, a whole bunch, as to why noise is more popular. One of them is the inevitability, as discussed in the last posts, of more and more...

It's something that I think about a lot, this question of where all of the imitators have come from and why, how the market allows for it, whether it's ultimately going to be a positive thing for the democratization of creativity in the long run (distasteful as it may seem in the short run) or...

Also, I think a better comparison here may be to WZT Hearts, whom Marc Masters also likes. They're not a duo and not as crude as fuck buttons, but they've got blissful textures, laptops, and a more epic, melodic thing going on (probably harsher moments too). It's still loosely related to noise...

I hear what you are saying and agree to a large extent. But a couple of comments: - The unpleasant feeling wrought by hipster fly-by-night fashion-chasers signing up as fans will always be there, no matter what genre you're talking about, so I try to keep that out of my own judgment (to the...

Maybe what you say is true about UK "noise dweebs" but it doesn't apply to the noise scene in the northeast US. First of all, Animal Collective has virtually zero connection to the nyc/NE US noise scene. AC are perceived as an oddball pitchfork-approved pop band, and their overlap is...

The McCain gaffe got airtime for a bit but went nowhere, didn't stick, has already fallen out of discussion on the cable networks. Perhaps it will come back. Will take an artful and relevant framing of the issue in some news-making way to get it back, though, b/c the market drives the cable...

Absolutely! 'Tis just a matter of time. HRC's chances have run out (today, in fact, permanently, thanks to the Michigan decision) and it's time to get on with it and get behind Obama. His speech on the Reverend Wright comments a couple of days ago was a beautiful thing.

So what comparisons/influence from earlier music would you suggest? You mentioned "from '59-'79" but that's such a broad period in terms of music history that you could say this of almost any realm of music made today. In the case of this band, what antecedent(s) do you hear as predominant...

A surprisingly poor article in the area of "philosophy/cultural theory/etc" here: http://www.frieze.com/comment/article/clearing_the_air1/ (edited for swears)

Subotnik, Ligeti, Radigue, and Lucier, yes. Scelsi didn't write much if any electronic music, as far as I know.

"Much needed sensitivity" ... yeah right, where was yours, in the opening post? What zhao's string of posts exposes is the fact that good/leftist politics are in no way guaranteed simply by having 'your heart in the right place' (or whatever). Ill-informed, half-thought-out, kneejerk...