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lol I know, I wasn't recommending that.... (although i think blindly reacting against canonization is good for artists to do...there's far too much reverence and respect in pop these days)... i just meant that it can make it harder to respond to the canonized artist...

Vocalcity deserves all the plaudits it got... I came to it very late, in the grip of depression, very little could reach me, but Vocalcity did.... It seduced, and there are few records more seductive... It struck me as an alternative template for pop, a model for a pop entirely liberated, as Tim...

Matt .. given that the whole thing was perfectly ghastly, the fact that Dylan was the leading light of the protest scene is saying very little... it's a bit like being the best Mills and Boon novelist... :) (seeing footage of that period makes me glad that I 'missed out' on the early...

lol, but this kind of thing is exactly what I meant by portentous doggerel really... it's like a cross between sixth form poetry and nonsense lyrics a la Whiter Shade of Pale...

but the idea of a non-American rock is surely a non-starter to say the least... think Britpop was specifically concerned about the Seattle sound... a rock sound which Englishness could have no purchase on whatsoever I suppose Not sure I'm seeing the difference... yeh, but no-one's saying it...

Yes and no ... (btw, since Britpop was entirely derivative of that 60s tradition, why would it be Britpop redux? Surely Britpop was sixties redux, and was pretty much accepted as such at the time?) Yes, they used r and r and blues... but surely to use your word, which I think is a good one...

yeh all of that is right of course.. I forget the 50s, it's like a bad dream i never had :)

Fair enough, I like your above post very much btw... you and Owen at least trying to make a case, rather than appealing to self-evidence... I guess I just find this odd... obv it is far different to the things that meant most to me... not because I think that I am especially interesting, just...

A decade after More Brilliant than the Sun and this mouldering rockist triad is still being ringfenced and heritage plaqued? Yeh, in Q magazine, but here? Seriously, though, is this what you think, are these the artists that have meant most to you in your life, or is this what we're all...

The idea that the Who, Stones and the Beatles 'reflected America back to itself' is simply wrong, for at least two reasons: 1. There WAS no r and b derived American pop until it was invented by those groups. 2. Those groups were as English in their own way as The Kinks... (Village Green didn't...

It'll be news to Lou Reed that he's gay... But A few random thoughts 1. Not sure how illuminating the comparison of dance-rock crossover acts is, because it's not as if many of the UK groups had a very sustained career in that genre. I mean the Soup Dragons had one opportunistic crossover hit...

I find your reading of Cadigan and Sterling very odd... they always struck me as very humorous writers... Pat in particular is very far from being po-faced... I can only repeat that IMHO Tea from an Empty Cup and Fools are absolute masterpieces...

Ignore Mr Hotflush, chaps, he's either a troll or he really believes what he's saying, which is worse...

But all of the interesting British Pop, from the Kinks to punk to postpunk to New Romantic, didn't in any sense reflect America back to itself. From the American POV, it brought something to the table that wasn't on offer, it was an exotic presence. It could be argued the reverse: that the...

Come now, nothing is as bad as the Guardian....

Yes, that's SUCH a good argument... Because things are worse elsewhere that justifies things here? Just wear clothes inappropriate to the season, have a foreign accent or look at the ground when passing policiemen, they will do the beating for you...

I have a problem with it, and I live in London. What constitutes 'dodgy looking' for a start? And in this case, while a search might be legitimate, wtf did they go on to arrest him afterwards?

Well, I've never read anything about Dylan that didn't baffle me when I actually heard the object of this reverence.. and of course vacuous and fallacious appeals to self-evidence and canonic authority aren't really going to persuade me.

Sounds more like Dawson's Creek to me :) But I'm glad to see the back of cassettes: they were fucking shit... c'mon now.. impossible to find a track you wanted to listen to...lasted about two plays... ABYSMAL sound quality... the scylla and charybdis of Dplby or not -- use noise reduction and...

Just because there's no existence without culture doesn't mean that everything that can be said of existence can also be said of culture. The existence of the average person in Europe in the middle ages, in fact in any period up to the post-war twentieth century, was pretty ephemeral compared to...