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    GRIME- breaking news, gossip, slander, lies etc

    I had the pleasure to play a gig in Belgium in 2005 with Skepta, Platician, Jammer, Virus Syndicate and Mala. While he seemed a bit stand-offish he also clearly had great passion and drive for his music. Playing a set at the end of the night as agreed we would all take it in turns to go back to...
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    GRIME- breaking news, gossip, slander, lies etc

    Breakaway doesn't actually SOUND LIKE Pac's life though. This is my point. Lambasting someone for putting a girl on a chorus is one thing, but saying by doing that you are aping hip hop is asinine. Putting vocal hooks on a tune has been something which has been used by dance music since the dawn...
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    GRIME- breaking news, gossip, slander, lies etc

    Now it is "a bit like a Hip Hop record" Well by the very definition of popular opinion, any black male rapping on a beat is considered hip hop. I don't want an extensive back catalogue, and again you are doing what you always do which is make attempts at sarcastic exaggerated mockeries of what...
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    GRIME- breaking news, gossip, slander, lies etc

    So someone rapping inbetween a female hook is hip hop? And what the fuck are "Hip Hop melodies"? This is descending into farce.
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    GRIME- breaking news, gossip, slander, lies etc

    How in the name of Christ does Breakway sound like hip hop. I have asked about a half dozen times for ONE SINGLE SOLITARY hip hop record that sounds like Breakaway. Just one. All I get are hackneyed comparisons due to someone rapping inbetween a girl singing a hook. If anything that is RnB...
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    GRIME- breaking news, gossip, slander, lies etc

    Now the thing is, a track like Leave Me Alone (KT Pearl and Kano) is basically the same formula, but that is one of my favourite records to come out of this music. I love it.
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    GRIME- breaking news, gossip, slander, lies etc

    Gangsterz had no chorus. Roll Deep's Stampers had no chorus either. And Matt, how many 4/4 Garage raves have been shut down in the last 3 years? Not Niche events up north where people get shot, Garage made by people like MJ Cole etc. That music doesn't go through adversity in terms of...
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    the nme dubstep article

    Not enough DMZ love, but it pushes people in the right direction to places where they can find out the correct information. dubstep forum and rinse fm etc
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    GRIME- breaking news, gossip, slander, lies etc

    I am still waiting for actual examples of ANY solitary hip hop record the Breakaway beat sounds like.
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    GRIME- breaking news, gossip, slander, lies etc

    The beat doesn't sound anything like hip hop. Don't talk tosh. Show me ANY Ja Rule record that sounds like it. Putting a girl on the hook is not the sole territory of hip hop. Doing so does not mean you are making hip hop.
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    hadouken / problem of appropriation / hot topic MERGED

    That entire post was taking a very lose correlation to the furthest reaches of rationality and beyond. Wiley took the riff from Terrible from Dangerous? No he didn't, but even then those early Grime artists still gave thanks and recognition to Garage music for it's influences. Spooky...
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    GRIME- breaking news, gossip, slander, lies etc

    Unlike a lot of the knock off R&G tunes that died a horrible death after Terror paved the way and people were unable to reproduce what he was doing, Breakaway actually still has some decent bass to it. It's not entirely sanitised. I quite like what it is trying to do, which is add some melodies...
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    hadouken / problem of appropriation / hot topic MERGED

    Having one release which was a low rent knock-off of Creeper does not give you a pass to run off into the indie scene with your new toys and not do any work to promote where you stole your ideas from. When I start seeing remixes from Rapid and JME, when I start seeing interviews and articles in...
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    hadouken / problem of appropriation / hot topic MERGED

    Can these topics get merged?
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    GRIME- breaking news, gossip, slander, lies etc

    Adding melodies is now the realm of hip hop eh? I see..... Breakaway isn't my favourite track on the album. But it is a Grime track, from a Grime artist on a Grime album. It is not an appropriation of it from someone making music elsewhere getting credit for doing something new and exciting...
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    GRIME- breaking news, gossip, slander, lies etc

    Breakaway sounds like a Davinche beat that would fit onto any of his last 3 EPs with added melodies that make it "accessible". Any hip hop records you might like to show that it sounds like? Ive not heard any in the last 5 years
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    hadouken / problem of appropriation / hot topic MERGED

    I care, ergo I posted about it. You don't care yet went to the same effort?
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    GRIME- breaking news, gossip, slander, lies etc

    I read Youngsta has a track on Lethal's album. I've not heard anything from him though in a while. Tinchy's album is coming out independently on Takeover Entertainment in the summer. Breakaway is out April 2nd. The album is called Star In The Hood and has production from Davinche, Rapid and...
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    hadouken / problem of appropriation / hot topic MERGED

    Does that mean I have to like it and accept it?
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    hadouken / problem of appropriation / hot topic MERGED

    Ok Clearly I have no problem with people who are not of colour appropriating Grime. I am personal evidence of that. Clearly I have no problem with people who are not living a 24 hour street life of under priveliged grind and hustle appropriating Grime. Again, personal evidence. I just have a...
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