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the end justifies the means...strange how people can't see that they implicitly take Israel to task for using precisely this justification: Israel posits an almost impossible end - exterminating Hamas (effectively snuffing out an idea) - in order potentially to justify never-ending violent...

Some very nice lines there

I mean it's taken a few months for the rest of the forum to process that yyaldrin said that Hamas have nothing to apologise for...that's the standard here: very slow movers indeed, loath to go against the grain Someone in the in-group will inch towards the obvious, another will poke their toe...

@GhostofKinski @shiels I changed Ghost's mind: he claimed that Israel would 'by and large' expel their Arabic citizens but on being pressed for a threshold number he ceded, meaning that he has retracted his original claim for want of any kind of precision. Similarly, you might claim that Israel...

@shiels if Israel hates Palestinians why don't they exile their own Palestinians?

I can pose simple questions that make your conformist brain explode.

If you can put some numbers on your prediction then we'll have a wager.

Their recompense is getting their gaff back with all you squatters on the first boat out. I hope you're not waiting for Donald to give you the order!

Israel are clearing Gaza cos that's the only way they can clear it of Hamas.

Do you expect Israel to expel all the Arabs within its borders?

@mvuent do you even know a Native American?

Do you think the term Native American unfairly implies that they have first dibs on America? Should they be called "the beaten people"?

Note that Lammy et al are complaining about the possibility of starvation, rather than the elimination of Hamas. In a few days the aid problem will be rectified along with the diplomatic issues.

You just used the same logic through your complicity argument.

It's not about the oppressed people. It's about the hated Hamas oppressors, who are also loaded. The left have had nothing to say about the Palestinian demonstrations against Hamas, because it makes things a lot more complicated.

Are you the only person on earth to wear Hamas military insignia?

They're literally trying to eliminate people who treat their "own side" as human sandbags.

Oh you don't count it as a killing? You think it's a deepfake false flag perpetrated by Ghost's Jewish billionaire class.

Well someone wants to keep hold of their ill-gotten gains.