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co-sign on the miami bass stuff. I have to go find the titles but look for car test bass, they're usually just a series of pitched subs with some scratching or something over it. 'pump that bass' etc Kinda like devil mixes, some of them sound like dubstep in that they're filling so much space...

Yeah those are actually good points, the examples I cited (besides Mr. Skyywalker) are very much in NY-school hiphop style. And I agree that Ghost and Rae beat most MCs from most any region or time period in terms of content but in terms of party tunes? They get blown out of the water unless...

gumdrops: yeah but did you hear that tune? 'tiger, tiger yeah I really killed him' The way he spits it is big. I personally think (fake beef or not) they are both more focused when dissing each other.

mms: yeah I qualified my position a bit for some of these reasons, see above post.

re: streets, sov, VP, etc. I'd also like to point out that I'm not actually trying to diss these artists. In fact as a young educated white guy I think some could level the same criticisms at my own music, and I don't think the artists are necessarily doing it cynically. It's more the way...

Boy Better Know is JME and Skepta's label. It's not totally clear to me why everyone is releasing with them now, I think it's because JME brought out Shhut Yu Muh and sold a bunch on CD before anyone else really and so now everyone is just getting behind him. But yeah Wiley being on BBK was...

I agree that it's wild and definitely choppy in places, however: Fire Camp feat. Pete Doherty - Boy Is quite a strong tune, mainly because Lethal is dissing Wiley on it and therefore is paying attention/focused, but the rhythm as well is quite cool. Check Logan or Cameo lately, they've been...

just like to say quickly that 96 Bars of Ambition - JME, from his forthcoming Poomplex vol. 2 is fucking sick, just heard it on Logans last show. Lyrical highlights include 'My mind is strong like morning breath' and 'I spit the truth, nothing but the truth, raise my right hand, I'll raise...

Just for the record poison dart, and to continue a mostly pointless argument: I was born in 1979, listened to hiphop from when I was 5, and grew up my whole life in NYC. I was bopping along through the golden era and was a dedicated backpacker for many years. I was also listening to outkast...

yeah big co-sign on I Was A Lover, I really want to hear a subbed up remix of this, might have to do myself. And they're track Staring At The Sun is pretty incredible as well. Not feeling everything by a long shot but those two tunes are definitely working, and yeah bigup /rupcha, he put me...

I co-sign on the tension and release thing. I think, especially for those of us who went through jungle, that this is part of the appeal of the half stepping slow stuff. The slowness and big empty drops, mutes on the one, etc create this ridiculous tension so when you get a bass drop everyone...

yeah that bambaata punk tune is big. I do see Tony getting pretty soft after his brush with death, might be the beginning of his end. Who you think will take over the family if he dies? I think christopher maybe.

I think even if these outsider people come and take the sound and do something fucked up and maybe repugnant to its creators with it, well that's just what has happened with music since forever. Look at heavy metal arising out of rock music. Very different impulses and purposes, or for that...

yeah and whether you like it or not there is/will be an underground of metallist dubsteppers, I see if forming already, many of the people coming through from not dnb but *gasp* breakcore or the much derided electronica are pushing that sound pretty heavily. Went to one of 2Krazy's THCell...

what is UK steppas?? Distorted reggae is what I'm getting so far... Anywhere online I can hear something?

This is maybe way OT, maybe not but having grown up in New York (and am therefore, a REAL New Yorker, thank you, thank you) I find that the real new yorkers, very few of them anyway, are the reason NY is an exciting place to be. It's more the alienated young kids from the sticks who have...

don't see them as too low brow, actually I think it's one of the better bits of cinema going, certainly acting wise. Hope this isn't too much of a spoiler, we're up to 7 I think but Vito plays a central and pretty surprising role. You better catch up though dog! It's hard to talk about the...

Just a quick note, I'd say that the DJ playing the same style of music for an hour is probably a newer thing than DJs playing all kinds of records. Look at Bambataa, Herc and the hiphop originators. They couldn't play an hour of hiphop because it didn't exist, so they had to cobble together...

The first fly of spring in my apartment in Berlin has my cats literally beside themselves with excitement. And: there is a line of toilet fixtures (seems like mostly the metal hardware) popular in this part of the world which shares my last name. Saw it for the first time in Belgium but they...

Hell_SD: check your PMs, I sent a link to some of my tunes. And in case your wondering I didn't post it publicly because I enjoy keeping a thin bit of anonymity between my 'musician' and 'forum posting' personalities, so that I can speak a bit more freely on here and not make everything I say a...