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unlike these parts which are probably closer to 90:10.... :(

Haven't heard the new record, but I would definitely second the "real joy" bit, from seeing them live last year. All gnarly and shirtless and all over the place, hippy to the extreme, but more happy and less stoned/ponderous/full-of-shit. They opened for the somewhat prissy Final Fantasy (who I...

speaking of these particular frozen wastes (i.e. canada), why the hell is pop-punk SO HUGE here? I hear it so much more here than in the US. We've got Sum 41, Simple Plan, Billy Talent, Three Days Grace, Alexisonfire... it goes on forever!

As any kind of vanguard-y new rock, sure post-rock is totally played out. But Do Make Say Think has consistently been releasing interesting albums...

saw messiean's song cycle "poêmes pour mi" performed yesterday. utterly entrancing, spellbinding.

oh, on the less poppy side, I saw Rhys Chatham (mid 70s NYC minimalist guitar dude) last night in Toronto play his 1977 (?) "Guitar Trio" with many more than 3 guitars, a drummer, and some string players playing harmonics. Really awesome sound. Really sounded like a totally unpop precursor to...

@ Leo: tell me about Oneida. I saw them a few years back open for (local heroes) the Constantines in the t dot, and they didn't do much for me (of course, I wasn't into psych-y pounding rhythms at the time). Also, where do I start with Liars? Which album is best?

wow.... monster lineup.

Another vote for Gang Gang Dance. Saw them a few months ago here in Toronto (to a disappointing-sized crowd!), and was entranced. Hypnotic rhythms, switching up all over the place, awesome sounds (way more than should be able to be produced by 4 people on stage), and a lead singer with awesome...

re: the stylus piece. I can't understand how everyone can (mis)read sfj as being condescending!

nomad: you do know that scritti didn't always sound like MOR-lite, right? you've heard the "early" EPs, which are all scratchy post-punky (which you may or may not like, obvs). The relevant chapter in Reynold's Rip it Up really explains where they were coming from and trying to head to, and...

@nomos: I'm sure that's at least somewhat in the back of his head. But mainly, in the 1extra interview, he just sounded really really exasperated.

very sorry to hear about your sister. My condolences.

resuscitating this thread is definitely a good idea. Joanna Newsom - Ys. All this talk and bluster 'round these, I had to go back and check. Still love it. Wiley - Tunnel Vision - various cuts here and there off 1 and 2. He'll be sorely missed. Can't wait for the album. Shackleton - Blood on...

newsom as personifying whiteness w/r/t dancing is, yes, spot on. FWIW, I like dancing and dance music a lot, but I must admit that I'm a relative neophyte when it comes to dance music genres (how many north americans aren't? not many). In fact, like many north american music lovahs, I (in high...

oh, and I agree with every turtles just said. Her voice is very much personal taste area. same thing with the not-quite-synching-up of all the elements.

hehe.. I'm not sure what "real" microvibrato is, since I thought I had made up the term :) going back to the record, the vibrato touches that I remember are bigger than I had remembered, e.g. 6:47 in "Only Skin". I still love it, though. A couple of other points. 1. I mentioned Simons SDC and...

ha! that would be... wow... I might have to try... :) as for one thing I like (there are many, and I can't really put it all together in any good way), the pentatony in "Only Skin" is gorgeous, and she has these little vocal flutters (micro vibrati) at the top of each little pentatonic run...

not much evidence to support this! we ain't been raining on yr raining on our parade for most of this thread! anyway, jus' look around to find rapturous praise from respektible sources. Say, silverdollar...