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I'm not really talking about musical influences having already acknowledged they share a great many. I'm talking about the ethos of hiphop which is more about fuck the man, self empowerment and a do it yourself attitude. And that being an inspiration to eastern US black kids like Atkins. From...

obviously not I can't watch a film and truly supend my disbelief. They are just characters on a screen. That they may be racist characters doesn't neccessarily reflect the attitude of the actor playing the role or are we to assume from this character that cohen is a racist then ? exactly it is...

Ok so maybe it's presumptuous of me to lump grime in with gangsta rap and the continual gangbanging beef that feeds hiphop worldwide. I don't really make the distinction of grime being anything other than UK hiphop though. So with that in mind yes many crews do feel the need to protect their rep...

Planet rock wasn't Bam/soulsonics first tune. They established themselves and the blueprint for hiphop and electro in NY as early as 77 and releasing 'zulu nation throwdown' in 1980 predating anything going on in Detroit. What specifically can you not barely understand ? Surely if Bam and...

Cybotrons clear was an electro trak but credited as the first techno trak also. Electro was a derivative of hiphop through Bamabaataa who by 1982 when clear was recorded by Atkins had along with his soulsonic force already laid the blueprint for electro and was organising hiphop tours to...

That's just silly, can you honestly not see the striking similarities between what black people in NY and those in Chicago and Detroit were doing with regards to electronic music and putting on parties in the early 80's ? Well how about the turntablism of Jeff Mills/the wizard/UR I suppose...

pics or STFU :D

Being black of whatever class in an early 80's american urban setting making electronica using the same technology and ethos then putting on parties in different cities contemporaneously regardless of the sub genre they were making does have striking similarities. It's not like we're comparing...

Respect as a cultural value within grime that many feel needs to be defended to the death makes grime a culture i would not value. The music as art which represents that culture and reinforces those values is not something i would promote. For all this I can see titch becoming a next level...

only to him I suppose. I think it was his intention to a) make a film b) capitalise on his fame c) make a lot of money from the film d) become even more famous d) force people to confront racism/cultural elitism using humour e) highlight how fucked up people are I still haven't seen it but i...

Funny that. If everybody is rebelling against something, then to choose not to is to rebel against rebelling. I supose it's like abstinence form voting as a conscientious objector. It only works if a couple do it but if everyone abstains then does the whole system collapse or maintain a status...

That sounds like something you made up It implies titch was already a killer waiting for an excuse to murder and the music conveniently supplied it. Was he ? I read gooodz, a 24 yr old kidnapped shah, a 16 yr old and held him captive in a car until he apologised saying he couldn't have no kid...

None taken and therin lies the problem of defining a linear continuum as mentioned in a previous post. Funnily enough i just finished that 'techno rebels- Dan Sicko' book a couple of weeks ago. It is suggested there that both detroit and chicago scenes were influenced by the big disco stuff...

With turntablism coming from hiphop one could argue the cult of the DJ taken up by early house and techno DJs/producers in detroit and chicago in the mid 80 was directly attributable to what had been going on in hiphop/electro at the time. Tunes like cybotron -clear are obvious testament as is...

If the US equivalent to the hardcore continuum were hiphop and that started with kool herc and GM flash, then funk and disco had already had its day making the big bands which were indicative of those genres merely sample banks worth robbing to support the breakbeat revolution. Real instrument...

Haven't we already had the sexual revolution ? I'm not too sure what that was all about but i have a great name for the band and based on a true story. MY LESBIAN EX Lip service and hand waving do not a revolution make or do they? I suppose you're right, maybe i just need to consolidate the...

importance isn't really important anymore

^ :D I like what Jarobi brought to the mix and after that first album it was never the same.

What do you mean return to spirituality ? A return in itself signals a move backwards. If you don't embrace technology you're not moving forward. You may be moving sideways or backwards but the only way forward is through technology either in the making of or distribution of music. What i think...

Benga smokes skream and we all know why, something about instinctive travels and the paths of rhythm. Combs 60 or whatever is the best thing doing the rounds at the mo IMHO.