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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissensus_law ;)

^yeah, i would. It's got a rolling and swung snare pattern in true breakbeat style and chopped breaks all through it. If you listen to the intro beat it's a classic breakstep thing as is the bass in the breakdown but what about the keyboard skank toward the end ? Crazy, quirky shit. I just love...

It's not salt n pepper. It's a so solid connection courtesy of Mr shabz with a funky little breakbeat kicking it along in fine garage style . http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IPLJ68XK ;) but this 'nuum thing just gets worse. Not only is it now strictly UK but londoncentric as well. No wonder...

A1 post Gabba. Thanx for that. A D minus for you 2stepfan. With a name like that i'd expect a little more. Cheers Precious cuts. Heres a mix I did a while back of some of my favourites. What of this is UKG and what is 2step ? :D Obi Project - Baby Can I? (Get Your Number) Artful Dodger -...

If only it were that simple muser. While I can see where you're coming from, the 'hardcore continuum' in the UK precludes discussion of wider influences like early german electronica, italo disco, american hiphop and the detroit/chicago twin strands of house and techno. As mentioned...

I guess my beef about MJ cole and wookie was the straight 2step remix work they undertook for everybody and anybody. It demeaned UKgarage, making the genre more about about the remix than the actual core sound. Not denying though that sincere is a fine album which even now stands as a classic...

Sure it does. It's called falsification. Ok theres a bit of step in those tunes but still more in the halfstep, brokenbeat and slowed down bashment vein than mainline 2step. I don't know if I made it clear earlier but I did and do still listen to 2step and garage. I love the stuff. I'm saddened...

Since we're partially derailed I may as well crash a train into the rear end and have right ol smash up.;) I thrashed kode9's sets since the beginning of the hyperdub site and from when he had his samurai inspired website.I have heard the roots of dubstep, (my mate has most of them on original...

Renegade soundwave had some wicked conscious dub style breaks stuff a couple of years ago as Red Star on the 10 kilo label and I still don't understand why that strain wasn't picked up and followed through either, although Tayo has given it a try with limited success. Yeah, T power putout a...

metalbox products, lonewolf, soundbox and markomen should be kept a close eye on too. Filthy, filthy stuff I tells ya.

If the UK breakbeat continuum started somewhere it was probably with Madchester, stone roses, charlatans, happy mondays, candyflip et al and hiphouse, cold cut, the beatmasters and bomb the bass. Combine those elements and you get the big beat of chemical brothers, freddie fresh and fatboyslim...

I'm actually picking up on the continuum of breakbeat in UK electronica not trying to rewrite the 'hardcore continuum' to exclude 2step/garage. It follows more naturally to slow down d'n'b/jungle breaks to get nu skool/ glitchcore breaks then cross over to breakstep which took into account the...

Your point being ?

links, tunes, mixes, artists please. By minimal though, are you meaning dubstep ?

I say 'nuum' like numb. Only I extend it to sound like a buddhist chant 'om mani padme numb'. From the sounds of it and on the surface the 'nuum' has little to do with 'sonic warfare', kode9's pet theory. I think funky house is immune. Having been exposed to so many viral infections from other...

ardkore>>jungle>>drum n bass>>nu skool breaks>>breakstep>>dubstep ??

Pardon my french, but screw the minimalist shit and sonic headfuckery. Gimme something I can dance to proper.

yeah, it's like if technology can't save us we're fucked. Reinterptreting sacred texts is like putting faith in the Kyoto accord. Paying lip service.

heheh...I'm glad you disagree with me. It's so boring when everyone agrees with everyone. You only have to look at the dubstepforum to see the danger in that. So give me 3 jungle and 2step songs which best exemplify your unique persepective on the natural progression of the continuum from jungle...

Jungle was the spedup breaks of US hiphop/funk, the amen, the apache, the funky drummer. An altogether distictly UK evolution of the breakbeat continuum combined with the double timed ragga samples of dancehall. The tradition of the breaksteppas combined that with 2step/garage but mostly ditched...