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Liverpool were able to turn that match around due to the abject complacency of Milan and the introduction of Hamann to counteract Kaka. It is symptomatic of our near-sighted Anglo-centric view that the final has since mutated into another 'Gerrard as one-man-team' legend. What about Vladimir...

If you hit the post, you have missed. In what way is hitting the post unlucky? It doesn't change which team is best, it reveals which team is best. Gerrard was playing the same balls into the box, making the same runs for one-twos, attempting the same shots, running down the same balls...

Scores more. Sets up more. Better touch. Better pass. Better finish. Simplistic but not strange. In what way is it misguided? Totti has only been a striker the last two years. So he is also more versatile than Gerrard.

Well it is certainly a good, logical starting point. Obviously. England would be better with a competent goalkeeper. They demonstrate no such thing. They play the same.

Totti was top goalscorer in European leagues last season, top for assists in Serie A, top for assists at the World Cup and in every single way a far superior player to Gerrard. Del Piero was a brilliant player. Fair enough, not so much now. Gattuso is Savage with a beard, talent and a treasure...

Buffon, Nesta, Cannavaro, Zambrotta, Gattuso, Pirlo, Totti, Del Piero, Toni. Top class players, top class team. The best team is the team that wins. That is why we play games.

England are the only team expected to qualify who didn't. The other groups went to type.

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What, in your opinion, are the great strengths of Gerrard and Lampard? I don't think that high energy and long-range shots are as effective in a less free-form style of football that relies on creativity.

They are.

We lack the skills that link individual players into a team. It is blatant that in terms of technical ability - first touch, first-time pass, balance - we haven't a single world-class player. It is also clear that our players are mentally slow-witted. Under pressure, they panic. Susceptible to...

Your statement is wilfully disingenuous. Mixed Biscuits was merely seeking well-informed dissection of researched facts. You got your opinions off Adolph Reed Jr.'s chest forcefully enough, but without recourse to anything but slurs and nebulous diatribes. I am far from willing to admit that...

LOL. Joanna Newsom? I agree about PJ Harvey and Bjork - both distinctive singers. If it was a top 30, they would have been there.

LOL So would I.

I thought snobbery was the domain of the socially or intellectually superior. Nobody has come up with a single, modern day, alternative to the singers in the list.

Oh, I agree. However, in terms of live performances only their greatest have lived on, just as all we see of Pele is highlights of his best.

No. It is just one of many criteria.

The World's Greatest Female Vocalists across Pop, R&B, Soul, Jazz, Blues, Folk, Rock, Metal and Country I researched hundreds of singers judging them purely on live performances over the last 3-4 years on criteria such as control of pitch, tone, vocal range, tonal versatility, stylistic...

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