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seems to me that the move is quite a personal thing, which is maybe a bit understandable given how demanding and insulting some posters (and even a big-ish producer) were starting to become i think droid's point is a very good one though either way i think its probably a good thing for the...

some great links here, thanks everyone :) whats the crack with speaker stands? how does one distinguish a good stand for monitoring as opposed to poor? i have a smallish desk of usual height (maybe slightly on the low side), and my monitors will be sitting either side of me... what is the...

oh my god that is terrible! when did that happen?!

Bring U Up (Engineer: GOD) TESTIFY !!! soooo sick

haha the double edged sword!...

i reckon the VIP term has probably always been loosely applied, and even more so now. either way the central point for me is how jokes all Marcus Nasty's VIP vocals are, i love them

do you mean this? has anyone had a chance to see it? i'd really appreciate any opinions about it

depends whether you see 'IDM' as an aesthetic or an approach too and how you would define either of those

this is interesting... http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/sep/30/marketturmoil.wallstreet

finally got round to listening to the Marcus Nasty b2b Mak 10 set... boy

$10 thanks for the forum :)

Walsh has always played sick sets when i've seen him, whether old or new reckon it'll be a sick night all round in fact

onetime i saw him play dub, hardcore, house, garage, bleepy techno, and dark 2-step in one set, that was deep, he pulled out some tunes what are the other guys from Horsepower up to nowadays? does anyone know?

Benny Ill is always worth seeing, mixing is not so good but every time i see him he plays shockingly good tunes, usually plenty i've never heard before also. but i dunno what kind of set he'll be playing Glazed is a ridiculous tune, love it. what i love is that it is so ruff, which is rare...

funny you should mention that last night i spent a little while on youtube listening to '99-ish Mannie Fresh and Ca$h Money, and listening back now (i didn't know about garage or grime til much later) that stuff sounds so much like grime. rhythms are less extreme but the aesthetic is so similar

these are all so sick! some of my favourite Timbaland-produced tracks (mostly bate ones! but i don't care): Aaliyah - One In A Million Aaliyah - We Need A Resolution Aaliyah - Are You That Somebody Missy - everything! Ginuwine - Pony and What's So Different - rah this video! never seen it...

agreed on all optimum's suggestions for Neptunes - Clipse albums especially, much darker than a lot of their stuff though some other personals: Missy - On & On Daft Punk - Harder Better Faster Stronger Remix Busta - Call The Ambulance Busta - Pass The Courvoisier Part II Snoop - Beautiful...

my knowledge is very sketchy, but from impressions i've got, i think it was kind connected to broken beat in sound although im not sure how connected to the 'scene' but people like Front Room Recordings Freerange (actually based in East apparently but i always associate it with the other guys...

its also probably appropriate to consider the role that communications technology (and other factors) has played here... the internet has perhaps considerably changed the degree to which producers of that tendency can converge around a single scene or genre to express that tendency and receive...

! and regardless of whether Ron Hardy would have agreed, imo whatever the precedent, a lot of what is exciting about funky is that an element within it have no deference to what people think house music should or shouldn't be or what 'house music can't get away with'!