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You had that already with New "Labour"

I'd assume many of them simply are not on good terms with consistency and logics. Others may know that corbyn is all but staunch Remainer, but rated other bits of his policies higher than that issue. And some might have just come to the conclusion that Brexit will go on and happen, regardless.

I would if there was more interesting stuff out there, or maybe I am not digging enough (though very little time for that anyways). I buy this (German) bi monthly music mag which comes out with a free CD and there's quite some rock on those, but hardly catches my ear really.

Alright, Leo. On the other hand you are a music-veteran meaning youre even older than the regular Dissensian ;) meaning, when you get older you'd naturally have a decline regarding hearing certain frequencies.

Beyonce is first and foremost self-important. She's the perfect embodyment of the crappy "me me me" culture of overbloated egos of today. so yeah, I guess that makes her "important" on a bigger scale.

It's a miracle I don't have tinnitus, really. I went to very loud clubs for a long time. Nowadays in my mid30s I haven't been to clubs or concerts for a couple of years now. @I-Phone. I don't have one so I don't know bout the headphones of it but I had an i-Pod for a while and back then I...

for the 2010s I'd say - meaning "important" as in popcultural impact, Lady Gaga and dunno Skrillex? K. West also. Lorde was enjoyable "mainstream", too.

@genre wars .... I was a teenager through the 1990s and frankly, can't even remember much genre warfare going on back then. There was the indie-rock crowd though who would be somewhat hostile towards dance and Hip Hop, mostly motivated by the very conservative notion of those two genres being...

I assume you mean muscial artist/musician here? There should be a "best artist" 2000-2009 and one 2010 - now, IMO at least.

That "devaluation of music thing" is an interesting aspect, bc IMO it clearly began with the dance era. Before that you'd buy an album, or a single of a singer/group you'd like and go to the concerts - which also did only last for maybe 2 hours - you would pay quite some money for the product...

Aren't the Lib Dems the staunchest Remainers?

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For what it's worth, Dubstep is probably the last time that template of a music-based "scene"/underground vs mainstream thing worked, at least in the western world.

You all know of this by now, still warrants a post: :crylarf:

Millenials lead happy lives via their smartphones. There are two genres though, one is IOS, the other Android.

Quite a few 1970s/1980s TV series were like this, too. The Man From Atlantis, 6 Million Dollar Man, Bionic Woman, *cough* Knightrider *cough*,

Ahem.... If you hold office, you are supposed to shake hands with lots of dubious figures. It's different than actually cheering those on. Carry on....

Macron clearly is the candidate of Big Business. The fact that he is subscribing to the lightweight (cultural) leftism of "inclusiveness", "diversity" and being pro gay marriage is exactly what's been considered "centrist left" today. Civic liberties (because gay bashing/open racism would be...

Indeed it is and it's quite telling how much to the right reporting on economics have gone when I in mainstream publications (as well as one TV debate - although admittedly on German TV) repeatedly came across occasions where commentators/journalists referred to the manifesto being "left wing...