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i find it enjoyable -- even if i'm not "having fun" with them, even if i may not like what i think they're about -- i still like going out and being around people, observing people, watching them interact plus i sometimes enjoy talking to complete strangers, especially in new york, finding out...

also -- i don't think that clubbing implies being a bloke that may be the case in england but not in new york there's still lots of socially maladjusted loner types who haunt the clubs and bars of new york which is why i said that good clubs always let such people in the bad ones don't

and i think it something of a tragedy that volume in williamsburg died a quick death

it's not as if i'm unaware that clubbing has lost its edge and is associated with the bloated over commercialization of the 90s rather, the question is twofold (1) is clubbing dead forever? -- i.e., i addressed this on the mods thread -- i.e., we might simply view clubbing as a phenomenon that...

yes -- but what are the alternatives -- listening to music on your lonesome ownsome? or perhaps only going to loft parties? -- which amounts to being dependent upon others to tell you about it or, should they ever return, raves? -- but by the time raves come back into fashion, you'll be...

that's slightly outside the scope of what somebody running a club can do needless to say, there's no shortage of cocaine in any downtown nyc nightlife establishment and mushrooms are plentiful in the summer the trick is to watch the line on the restrooms -- b/c if the line is too long and...

to my everlasting shame i never ventured out to the jungle clubs on the periphery of london when i lived there back in 92/93 closest that i came was heading up to labyrinth a few times however, i've since been assured that had i gone to the jungle clubs, i would have been promptly identified...

i describe my own taste as "deep junglistic hardcore" -- plus some belgian a la fierce ruling diva, some piano anthems, and some italian house which is to say, i'm not too keen on grooverider and topp buzz 91/92 mixes -- too hyperkinetic, not enough soul power think genaside ii "narra mine" is...

regarding psychopaths -- killer mummy -- quite excellent like all stuff by psychopaths and "killer mummy" is a good example of what i call "horror" rave there were tons of 90/92 rave tracks that had horror samples like this -- such as "hi i'm chucky/wanna play . . . . mommy mommy/chucky's...

this looks brilliant -- thanks! my favorite era of music w/o doubt i'm practically drooling looking at the track list -- very very strong, top to bottom awesome 3 -- hard up -- much neglected classic!

i was going to post this in reply to confuscius' reply to woebot's stated desire to invest clubbing w/ meaning however, i decided to make this its own thread b/c i'm not sure if anything on this list relates to the question of "meaning" -- and b/c it'd take the discussion of the "drive to be...

not to be a nit-picker, but not everything north of watford is from manchester! cabaret voltaire/sweet exorcist, human league, ital rockers, unique 3 = sheffield/bradford/leeds

didn't you (woebot) suggest way back that somebody needs to write a book on the many paths taken into acid house/early uk house??? this is the question that endlessly fascinates me -- i.e, all these roads leading to rome (1) post-punk and industrial acts (cabaret voltaire & sweet exorcist; 400...

simon topping, who was in the original ACR line up, went on to form T-Coy w/ Mike Pickering Mike Pickering -- a Northern Soul dj btw -- formed both Quando Quango in the early 80s (check the dance mix of "Love Tempo" for a brilliant track years ahead of its time) and then in '88 T-coy w/ simon...

except that w/ siouxsie and grace it's more like poison or forbiddingly acidic fruit

only if you're selling records at discount rates

except that all event postings have for most part been put in music section i say this as a person who posts lots of events and will gladly post in miscellaneous if that's to be the order of the day merely pointing out that such law would be at odds w/ existing practice though i think this...

though i suppose there are different dynamics at work in the two cases i.e., w/ women such as siouxsie and grace jones, they "embrace their objectablity" -- i.e., they already hold the male gaze, but rather than shrink from or resent this gaze, they play the part and indeed radicalize the part...

sorry if i'm suddenly preoccupied w/ mod and clubbing issues . . . . but isn't that what "clubbing" used to be about -- getting out and being seen as a face or personality i.e., the club as a democratic space where people could distinguish themselves from the crowd -- i.e., a democratic"...

oh . . . . and for people down in philly -- kudu play on saturday, june 4th at the world cafe live, sometime around midnight, along with spankrock and lowbudget of hollertronix . . . . so check them out