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You can always find some kind of common ground, tho obv the bigger the cultural (and linguistic) gap the harder it'll be. A shared experience like Rich and his workmates def helps but isn't necessary. One of the things I missed most during the pandemic was striking up conversations with random...

That's no shade @linebaugh or anybody tbc, it's just that normie basically == you're not cool Just as hipster basically == you're inauthentically cool I certainty agree that it's weird to interact with relatively normal - as in non-subcultural, I guess - people. I had to actively put effort...

No one would self-label normie just as no one would self-label hipster

It's purely pejorative

I wouldn't call anyone normie really, tho I know what's meant by it

Yeah I didn't/wouldn't label @Leo "normie" and dispute such a labeling. This is a guy who was present at seemingly every cool guitar-related moment (and plenty of non-guitar moments) in the early 80s DT NY scene, possibly the coolest scene in the history of cool scenes. I'm still half-convinced...

Since this is a forum of mostly straight mostly white mostly dudes, normality or not is probably more choice than imposition for most if not all of us Something cultural capital yadda yadda

So in the U.S. the closer you are to being a straight white person the easier it is to be normal. Not that you have to be, just that the likelihood and availability of "normality" diminish the further you get from that paradigm. Other cultures may have a different model of normality but the...

That's how I would conceptualize it

Normal vs normie is pretty straightforward Normal == "normal" job, lifestyle, tastes, interests. There's a lot that could be said about what constitutes "normal" and how that intersects with race, heteronormativity, neurodivergence, etc, but normal is basically a shorthand for something like...

The TLDR/clarification I guess is that straight edge was a reaction but not against counterculture. In so much as the counterculture had become mainstream so to react against it was to create a new counterculture. There is definitely a good bit of anti-hippie sentiment spread thru both 77 punk...

Kind of, yeah It was definitely a reaction not so much to actual hippies as to the mainstreaming of elements of hippie culture - i.e. by the late 70s everyone had long hair and was doing drugs, including the kind of dudes whose older brothers would've been beating up longhairs 10 years earlier...

but since a bunch of his ideas jive with the Official Nationality trip Putin wants to be (or seems to want to be) on autocracy, Orthodoxy, expansionism, anti-West/liberal world order, the inherent mystical greatness of Russia, etc and he seems quite anxious - as thinker/grifiters usually are -...

my impression of him is if he's anything in Russia he's a would-be court philosopher with little to no influence on or access to the court kinda like how the Nazi inner circle found it useful to publicly promote Alfred Rosenberg while privately holding his ideas in contempt except that...

my impression of the North of England sometimes is that everyone has been subjugated to a relentless and brutal aural regime of happy hardcore and its various hyperspeed, completely grooveless descendants for every waking minute since about 1992

see corpsey also gets it of all the regulars here, I am least surprised that you get it death didn't exist, only the rhythm - what poetry

yeah there it is it's like that famous moment of Folamour dropping Abba at a Boiler Room thing

this jives with my old guy impression of younger, especially queer people, here in Chicago I don't go to any shows very often but when I do they're usually diy hardcore (the original kind - punk - tbc, not happy, or gabber) and idk about other places but here there are long-running crossover...

and yeah I mean Italohouse had already undergone a critical reappraisal and been recuperated by the reissue/revival-industrial complex so not surprising at all that it's moved on to Italodance, esp as it's such a short distance to travel everything once thought uncool must inevitably be...

this I had never heard before, thanks for that anyone who has any familiarity w/the Italo-cheese tradition knows that even by dance music standards it is an impossibly tangled web of remakes, ripoffs, uncredited covers, and so on, so it's hardly surprising The Rhythm of the Night is pretty...