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Not so much. It's more that, with Keith being such a useless centrist bastard, there's a grim pleasure to be had from polls like that, now that I'm no longer in the Labour Party anyway.

True enough. They usually underestimate the Conservative vote.

Meanwhile...

Ah, I didn't realize that. Thank you for setting me straight.

just putting this one out here...

Owen's interview shows are excellent. And mostly he lets the guests speak.

On which note... here's Owen Jones:

Pretty much every word of this... https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/feb/27/keir-starmer-showed-great-promise-but-labour-wont-win-without-some-policies

Trouble is some of them are my mates :rolleyes: Labour policies in 2017 and 2019 were progressive, anti-nationalist, and pro-working class. But... Plus Brexit.

In particular, it's a lot of young people who have completely switched off from the Labour Party. The pissing around over Brexit under Corbyn started that. And now with Starmer being such a completely useless centrist melt, they're probably gone for good. And all in the hope of a few more votes...

It absolutely would have done. But everyone was so worked up into hating Corbyn that they didn't notice.

ffs :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

more impressive politicking from Labour HQ... https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/feb/20/labour-mps-dismayed-at-orders-to-maintain-radio-silence-on-brexit

Stockhausen - Hymnen (Region 4) has always struck me as being proto-PE (y) but actually I searched for "power electronics" just in order to post this...

And this is a whole new bag of shite...

okay, so :)

Ahem! Someone go back and appreciate Palmer McAbee's Railroad Piece (y)