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in this instance its because of the night i had and also because of my largly negative feelings on Jay Z both on music and as a persona

nice to know serfdom never left

yeah sure like Jay Z is some sort of intellectual powerhouse, he's entertaining in Belly arguably because he's so wooden in it

by some he means "the 6 songs he admits to liking but can't listen to anymore cause he's rinsed them to death"

you touch me i'm beating the brown off of your skin

@shakahislop i mean your feelings on Wu only matter in the sense that older rap music (especially from the 90s) and 2000s underground rap was just treated as the gateway for people to get into rap music without having to address the music on its own terms, the grating hectorin white rap fan who...

yknow its funny @catalog of all people wanted to talk on this cause this is similiar to his explanation of how he got turned off of rap music (only his is further in that he got turned off the genre all together) see my thread on white people spoiling things for other whites honestly as far as...

Another cracker wanting to take credit for black peoples invention i see

you're one to talk sir can't wait for catalog to pull a Boris Johson where he apologises but refuses to really do anything to really atone for his transgressions

i mean Yeezus the thing with it is it's not new unless you never heard that kind of music that kind of harsh music and confrontational vibe that he was going for there were underground people who were making that kind of music before him but because it wasn't him or anybody on a major they didnt...

btw @shakahislop you didn't answer my thing on how you like Kendricks but outside of a few songs you turn away from Nas

I mean the irony is New York more than any other major notable city in rap are the ones who so pine for "the bad old days" but when you look at a city like Chicago which is now regarded as a major rap location they're still dealing with the result of 3 decades of neglect and a failed system its...

@shakahislop when Marcberg came out in 2010 it was the album that had all the deep in the know rap heads loving it but in the year of Dark Twisted Fantasy,Flockaveli,Teflon Don and of course Thank Me Later it got lost in the mix now its a classic ahead of the curve in terms of say the trend...

i mean Benny and that lot are just doing Roc Marciano but with broader strokes and if anything less interesting to me him, Benny reminds me more of those mid 2000s NY mixtape guys who had promise but didn't ammound to anything, Ka who started out in thta mould but went and carved out his own...

i mean TPAB if we're keeping it a buck sounds like a Roots album particularly around Pherenology and when Common put out Electric Circus if its density you like i'd reccomend that you check out the Freestyle Fellowship and those guys who came out of Project Blowed 1991 this came out

its compartmentalising and also the splitting of information as far as private companies dictating the news people online having their own individual lenses so there's no one commonly held opnion anymore, streaming and playlists taking over from albums and physical media and a whole bunch of...

@shakahislop right now the big 3 major label albums that people are excited to hear are from Pusha T Kendrick and Future, Pusha's already leaked and i dunno if i'll give it a listen haven't cared about anything he's really done for a hot minute now (actually now that i think about it his verse...

@Benny B i'd be interested to know what you and barty if he was still here think of Don Tolliver cause there's a few people out there who dislike Travis Scott but quite like him

i don't i wasn't crazy about DAMN or untitled unmastered but i liked that he moved away from those tendencies like i said before TPAB was a album with "ideas" but no real perspective behind it and that overthinking and him trying to make sure every loose end is tied together is what makes it...