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well, the male thing aside, gza "shadowboxin", wu "for heavens sake" are pretty damn chipmunky. but yeh, fair play he didnt do it often. the rza signature vocal thing was more using sung vocal fragments & shards, in that deliberate offhand manner, as part of the main loop. eg, the above tunes...

i doubt anyone is stupid enough to claim rza (or any one person) invented pitched up vocal samples. i wouldve thought it was fair to say rza popularized the style within hip hop - before wu records, it was considered a shitty way to use a sample wasnt it.

The quote is wholly agreeable, but no one's saying his music is better or worse for it, it's just an incidental fact. you getting flumoxed over someone being praised for their personality virtues is your own problem. why waste your energy.

I guess this means, you think there's a discrepancy between the darkness of the track titles, and the darkness of the music. Fine, but sam isn't like "that kid" whoever that was. He's about the most unassuming man you could hope to meet.

well tbf, the common view is that disinterested girls are more aroused by catchy song based dance music, whereas obsessive blokes like abstracty / less poppy dance music. im sure we've all experienced some observable verification of this massive generalization *shrugs*

for sure the gestation periods of new genre is astonishingly short nowadays, and that has its own problems. but its been like that for all new music for most of this decade, and the only fix would be to turn off the internet. personally i wouldn't even spend energy lamenting it, as there's just...

except the guy's from new york, and makes diplo-esque, all sorts music. and terms like factored and whitewash makes it seem quite deliberate & cunning, when its probably just the opposite. there's a lot of juke influenced music from non-juke artists on the horizon. some of it will work really...

re: myka's influence, its hard to say how much is myth isn't it. his fans have it that all fast triplet rapping can be directly traced back to him.. as can freestylng lol. if his ability is so vast, it's a shame it hasn't manifested into an amazing record. but he's definitely a long way from the...

that juggaknots was great. but to me stuff like that, mf doom, kool keith, is just good rap to me. the 'undie' thing (def jux, anticon, rhymesayers, project blowed, antipop etc) is/was it's distinct, own shrinking, bubble-world unto itself. If we're talking good, non major label rap, there's a...

speaking for myself i have a lot of respect for big juss, black mumba serums got a good deal of walkman time from me, a few NMS tracks too. but his solo work had a very lo fi, demo-ish sound, production wise.. his attitude seemed more hermitic than el-p's too.. it certainly didn't make for an...

overly familiar with this sort of thing.. listened to more than I needed to as a teen. particularly the good life cafe inspired, spacey LA stuff - project blowed, living legends, mass men, cve etc. It was the first internet rap afaik.. thing is, new 'internet' rap like odd future & lil b fulfill...

its not paradoy its just irreverent. you can look at his other vids if you want to waste some more time. its a good capture of what dubstep means to most people tbh.

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reminds me of the fake rusko vid that was made to discredit him. could easily fall in love with the idea with oneohtrix' work, but i wish he would go further with the actual work of arrangement, key changes & such.. The stylistic concepts and musical gestures are great, but the raw listening...

Juelz Santana - There It Go (The Whistle Song) Madvillain - Accordion Cool Kids - Black Mags Ghostface - Whip you with a strap Lupe - Kick Push El-P - Smithereens Lil Wayne - Zoo Cadance Weapon - Sharks J Dilla - Won't Do fav clipse & neptunes beats already been mentioned upthread.

LOL burial kode loefah mala and others all check rza as an influence. mala's darker stuff.. da wrath vip.. chambers.. kode's bizarro twang melodies (fat larry's skank remix, fukkaz)..

oop yeah i meant Harmonic 313. True that tune MAH played the other night was sick. im no authority but i feel you can quite clearly find the birth points in certain Jay Dee and Madlib tunes.. sa ra and dudes picked up on it but im pretty jay and madlib were the first, no? the newer wave...

Fucking hell. Anyway.. good as it can be.. Rustie, Various Prod, Quarta 330, Flying Lotus, Hudson Mo, Frequency 313 are the electronic extremity of the idea. One could simply listen to Black Milk, Jay Dee, Guilty Simpson, Madlib, Madvillain, Dabrye etc instead. In the context of actual vocal...

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To be honest bro, I think it's more similar to the argument against clownstep dnb. The 90s intelligent dnb / acid jazz crew's (wankers) disdain of ragga jungle is very similar in perspective to the dubstep / broken beat crew's (wankers) disdain of grime, however.