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was looking to start a thread on this very subject does anyone know of / have any mixes or know any frequencies for the grimier / more evolved sounds?

im really interested if you could expand on this antisocial surrealism concept... if you have the time of course

wasn't it just, i had an absolutely incredible time, best dubstep-related rave i've been to in a very long time, and hardly any dubstep was played! he killed my vibe to the extent that i left almost immediately true that more grime would've been good. im sure they intended otherwise getting...

house? i keep meaning to start a thread on this, i have no idea where to start with chicago... do you have any recommendations or good mixes or whathaveyou? --- as for me, i have been listening to and enjoying Subject Detroit, Aaron Carl, Carl Craig, Tuff Jam, Todd Edwards and lots of 4x4...

lol that is good. so dissensian, so good lots of great stuff from Gavin and Gek, thoroughly enjoyed reading through

yeh that set is almost entirely comprised of D1 and Mala (from Digital Mystikz) tunes sick set, sick sound... i think / hope that many possibilities lay in the direction they're headed on a vaguely similar tip are Silky and Quest of Antisocial Entertainment

i agree wholeheartedly

but why does it have to be either/or? i can go to a dubstep night on my j's and enjoy a very insular experience, appreciating abstraction and meditation, then party with all my friends the next night and dance with girls to whatever other types of music... because at the end of the day there's...

not really ploddy but i find his stuff pretty dull. a bit amelodic but without the meditative depth i need to sustain that. production i find too clean and masculine. but as ben says its just that i dont like his style

not to worry i think we were all at fault! on a personal level, i agree. further confusion!

yeh as well as Sarah running Ammunition and Letty doing Redstar, Platform 1, Dubpressure with Unlikely and Clandestine - two of the most important people in the scene for sure in the music itself though, very little. Vaccine brings something very different mind

this is one of the least coordinated discussions i've ever had, partly my fault of course. i actually have no idea what point is being argued anymore

why are you drawing a necessary association between darkness, mechanism, futurism and a lack of subtlety?

but sounding good and being danceable are different. and what and who defines 'good'?

imo 'the scene' is fucked. i dont think theres any way back for it as a single entity

are you talking about Pinch or dubstep? if you mean Pinch then I would wonder whether he necessarily sees his music as 'club' music, or at least in the traditional sense... for me it certainly doesn't play the same role that other forms of music like house or old school garage do. but then...

zhao... The most obvious point for me is that to so strictly associate these sets of emotions / characteristics with genres as expansive as dubstep and techno is a mistake, and an unfair one given the ferocity with which you're dismissing an artist's work (and essentially attacking his...

no i was saying that your final statement, regarding what you want from music and a club, is a long way from the original, more extreme claims. but its a bit by the by i suppose more to the point, what music precisely are you talking about? are you saying that futurism is inherently tied to...

thats quite a long way from the original statement though no? spiritual bankrupsy? repression? against expression?

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