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    One of the many things I find unfathomable about Joyce is that he was writing Ulysses while he had a job teaching languages to students. And was begging for money off relations, etc.

    Eliot worked in a bank, but poems are well short compared to novels.

    I don't think writing has to be torture but I think you have to be obsessed to do it really well.
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    Yes and no. I think the actual writing can be easy. for me it is easy. I've never found it a struggle. But the obsession, if you can call it that, the focus, has been with the internal conditions which make writing possible.

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    Any of those big, encyclopaedic things leaves me scratching my head at how. Joyce in particular though, I dunno how you can focus on the book as a whole, any sort of overarching structure or themes, the plot and so on when you're that locked in to each sentence.

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    It seems beyond belief, at times. Like he was superhuman.

    He didn't have to rely on publishers, of course. He had patrons. Dostoevsky famously wrote very fast because he HAD to - and you can tell reading his books (as much as you can, in translation, anyway) that he wrote them in a sort of white heat.

    The polar opposite being Flaubert, who took that "mot just" thing to the utmost extreme.
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    Lads, we are ignoring the important thing here. Which is me.

    https://archive.org/details/whatcannotbespoken

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    The patrons thing and everything else aside though. How do you sustain the impulse, not lose the thread over decades of writing the stuff whilst focusing on it to that degree? It's absurd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luka View Post
    Lads, we are ignoring the important thing here. Which is me.

    https://archive.org/details/whatcannotbespoken
    Can't believe you two decided to have some Radio 4 discussion about the mot juste on the Luka's Wonderful Poetry thread.

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    I have a block reading your poetry

    I think it's because I know you

    Too much pressure
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    Oh shit

    A wave shrugging across the ocean - love that

    I need to get around to it I really do
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    Just fucking listen to it you miserable wretch! I'd listen to anything you done

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    This is all weird and funny and absurdist

    I thought your poems were humourless bleak dirges
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    That's cos you don't read them

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    two things ben watson's great as, sending drawings of his knob to people in career crisis and reading luke's poetry. it's what he was born to do. he get it.

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    poem's wicked by the way.

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