Page 5 of 5 FirstFirst ... 345
Results 61 to 73 of 73

Thread: Gambling

  1. #61
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Posts
    29,938

    Default

    That's mostly what I had in mind when I said it's a cruel industry

  2. #62
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    10,286

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by luka View Post
    That's mostly what I had in mind when I said it's a cruel industry
    Also, isn't there something about how the good feeling from a win is smaller than the bad feeling from a loss... which you woukd think would kinda kill it off. Apparently not.

  3. #63
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    On the bus
    Posts
    2,141

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by IdleRich View Post
    But there are nice bars in Berlin aren't there? I remember one with a table-tennis table - I'm not saying that that was a good thing but it was there to entice people to stay.
    And do they have bookies in Berlin? As far as I know they don't have them in Lisbon. If they do they are hidden and specialised - I think UK is quite unusual in having loads of bookie shops in every town square.
    They have bookies here as yyaldrin says. They kind of resemble TV newsrooms. Nice and brightly lit. Colors easy on the eye. The cashiers beind a nice big fancy desk and multiple tvs showing the sports on the walls, each with several tickers all going at once which seems totally disorientating and maybe the only jarring aspect. Everything else is luxo modern. But, the people who go there are exactly the same as the ones who go to the bookies described in your post. I've never been inside, but always look through the window when I walk past. A few years ago I lived right opposite one. Factoid: most of Germany shuts down on a Sunday. Forget doing any shopping or even popping out for a loaf.. unless you live near a petrol station or a main train station in a major city, where they have supermarkets which have a special exemption. The only businesses allowed to open are bakeries and bookies. Restaurants and bars exempt ofc. Always struck me as strange that that's the one activity they encourage on the Lord's day of rest.

    As for the bars, maybe it's Berlin, or an East German thing. Or maybe it's an ex Soviet thing? Idk. Actually, yeah it's probably East Eu/Ex Soviet because you can find similar shit in other Eastern Euro countries, especially outside of the tourist areas. Maybe that's what makes Berlin a bit different. Even in the tourist areas this style is still everywhere. I haven't been around the country much tbh, but they seem to specialise in a type of bar and social hang out spot (which can also be a kebab shop or sometimes even an off license,) where its like a weird spell was cast in 1987 that forbade the decor to ever be updated. Kitsch doesn't begin to describe. Hard to explain exactly what it is. Think of those airbrushed paintings you get on the rides at the funfair. You know, the ones of celebrities, badly rendered but still recognisable. With dreamy stars, sparkles and zig zags coming out from behind them. Combine that with the sleaze of 90s Soho back alleys, or 80s Times Square peep shows. Put grey dirt in every corner. Have a tatty old calendar with a bikini clad, vamp haired, headband wearing, work out video babe on a beach, draped in a see-thru turquoise shawl. Wind machine blowing from just out of shot. Next to that a glossy poster of a candy apple red ferrari on a black background and or a stratocaster in flames with that same girl wrapped around it except this time it's ripped denim shorts and the hair's all messy. Little trails of sweat with beads at the ends perfectly lining her oiled contours. A large print of a palm tree or maybe a real fake palm tree with fairy lights draped on it. Lots of big words in different comic style fonts on the wall like cocktail and margarita, giant bulbous letters. The bar stocked with a wide range of unrecognisable spirits and then a 1l smirnoff taking pride of place on a special display stand. The clientele are all regulars and resemble the corners of the cushions on an old leather couch. They talk about gott knows what and hack and splutter when someone cracks a joke. There's warmth underneath. The ladies Have bleached their hair into scrub wire and have a little lap dog tucked between their feet and the scrawny wooden, pew-like bench which lines the wall. The lighting is low, and a queasy mix of cigarete stained bulb yellow and various neons that faintly shine as if past their sell by date. The most modern thing in there is the fruit machine. Some kebab places have a fruit machine room where smoking is allowed. The lighting in there even darker, and the windows looking in from the main room are tinted, giving a sinister effect as you catch the whites of the eyes of the gambler who shoots you a glance when he's reaching for another cigarette. One day I'll go and take some photos so you can see what I mean. This is just one type of place you can find all over the city. There are other styles too, but somehow this one fits best.
    Took a rest stop that wasn't on the schedule

  4. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to pattycakes_ For This Useful Post:


  5. #64
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    10,286

    Default

    Ah ok, great description. The ones in Finland are mainly just rooms with no decoration or windows and a table in the corner from which they sell cans, that's it.
    As for the Post-Soviet thing... it kinda went the opposite way in Moscow from what I've seen. There were no bars and then there were and cos they were free to invent them from scratch, so the ones I went to were all super swanky and started at 7 for a beer.
    Not so much in other places I've been though there was one in Yekaterinberg decked out with swings and stuff... ultra hipster basically.

  6. The Following User Says Thank You to IdleRich For This Useful Post:


  7. #65
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Posts
    29,938

    Default

    It raises the question of is drinking a sin

  8. #66
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Posts
    29,938

    Default

    I'm torn. It's hilarious, but is it a sin

  9. #67
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Posts
    29,938

    Default

    Corpse says drink is the devil. Is it? Good question. Maybe.

  10. #68
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    10,286

    Default

    Certainly I think there are good reasons why people have always linked gambling and drinking. They get hold of you in the same way and so on. They both have a furtiveness about them at times - not just caused by society, you can feel guilty being drunk in front of someone you got wankered with two days ago if they are sober - and a partners in crime type thing about those indulging. So yeah, they do belong in the same catgeory in some sense.... though whether or not that category is sin I really couldn't say.

  11. #69
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Posts
    5,013

    Default

    About five years ago when Vice was still flush, I remember stories about how Shane Smith used to bet with $25,000 chips. Reportedly won $1 million one night in Vegas, and then spent $300,000 on a feast afterwards.

  12. #70
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    The Fear - Dublin
    Posts
    8,850

    Default

    I only bet on politics. Looking forward to raking in a load of cash after the election this weekend.

  13. The Following User Says Thank You to droid For This Useful Post:


  14. #71
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    10,286

    Default

    I think there is a distinction to me made between betting on things where you truly do have some knowledge about the thing involved, and just betting on horse-racing or whatever where you may have knowledge but there are so many variables... and then last of all totally random things like chemmy.

  15. #72
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Posts
    5,013

    Default

    used to be you'd bet on who will win, and by how much. but now for big sports matches like the super bowl, Las Vegas has odds on crazy things like which team wins the coin toss at the start, which team calls the first time out, chances of a quarterback throwing an interception in the first quarter, chance of a particular running back breaking 100 yards rushing, etc.

  16. #73
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    10,286

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    used to be you'd bet on who will win, and by how much. but now for big sports matches like the super bowl, Las Vegas has odds on crazy things like which team wins the coin toss at the start, which team calls the first time out, chances of a quarterback throwing an interception in the first quarter, chance of a particular running back breaking 100 yards rushing, etc.
    There was a thing in football a few years back where sonetimes they would kick-off and just boot the ball out for a throw-in deep in the opponent's half, the idea being - they claimed - to sacrifice possession in exchange for a gain in territory and to put the other team under pressure straight off. But then someone pointed out that there was a spread offered by bookies on the first throw-in, and if you were selling it an instant throw would be the most lucrative. There was a suspicion that players were being bribed to do it... I mean most my baulk at throwing the game or whatever but booting the ball out in the first sec, why not?

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •