sadmanbarty
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‘Kill shit’ in terms of the drums is more fire’s ‘oi’ on top of a trap beat.
Don’t know where this thing about UK drill flows coming from ‘kill shit’ comes from. Maybe it’s something David drake has said or something, but it’s not true. It’s something you can plot on a graph, they’re objectively different.
I’d even say that the ‘kill shit’ flow is a great example of Americans not being able to cope with dancehall-esque drum patterns. It’s not a rhythmic lexicon they’re comfortable with and that’s why the flow on ‘kill shit’ sticks so rigidly to the snares.
Brooklyn drill flows aren’t UK flows, it’s the instrumentals that the Brooklyn lot are copying from UK drill, not the mcing.
Third time I've said this - I was pointing out that the stuff you posted upthread has zero cultural relevance beyond whatever miniscule audience listens to it on Youtube. It feels like you are responding to a conversation you're having in your head rather than the one we've actually been having.
No popular relevance. No real audience beyond a small group of connoisseurs. Which is great for what it is, but that's what it is.
The thread you were reacting to seemed to me to be lamenting the death of a widely involving popular scene, as much as the death of the future. Or rather mistaking one for the other
I'm just trying to build a framework of trying to conceptualise culture using a different, not sociocultural but sociohistorical paradigm and you wanna play the oh look at the weirdo autistic schizo in his head having a conversation in his head? anything for common ground i suppose!
It's just frustration mate. All I was trying to do was point out the music you were posting was fairly obscure and speculating that laments for a lost future are also laments for a lost scene or cultural moment within we can lose ourselves in. I was trying to make what felt like to me a fairly simple point and we've been going off on all these tangents about drill.
Third, as your therapist, if you keep yelling incoherent abuse at everyone they might get a bit tired of you and not bother engaging. No matter how interesting or useful your ideas might be. I can't be fucked myself and I'm the model of patience and tolerance.
I dunno though. Raving back in early 90s seemed to have that feel of a mass movement while the edges of the musics being played were very creative.
This does seem unusual though culturally.