Vinyl dying (for DJ's)

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rubberdingyrapids

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yeah, bad as it might be that every producer thinks they can also dj, equally bad are the djs who thinks that being a dj makes them able to produce/remix/edit etc too. (ie the stems idea might be too much freedom for most djs and kinda dilute what being a good dj is actually about - i think limits are often good things)
 
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Leo

Leo

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i always viewed djing and producing as two different skills. while there's certainly a relation between the two, the ability to do one doesn't necessarily mean you'll be any good at the other, does it?
 
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Phaedo

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i think a lot of producers who are djs think making the tunes takes all the skill, then djing is the easy part.
 
Sectionfive

Sectionfive

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Aye, the knock on of rep and gigs coming from prominently from getting a record out now has seen a lot of people learning djing on the fly and all that goes with.
 
Local Authority

Local Authority

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I booked some artists recently one who's been producing and playing out for almost 20 years, one who is only on his second release and only came about in the past 8 months.

Guess who was significantly cheaper (and polite) ?
 
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Esp

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baboon2004 said:
As secondline said though, it would sound shit if the stems were mixed together without being properly EQ-ed and compressed; can't see any way around that, given tracks of any reasonable complexity.
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I agree in terms of people getting a load of stems from different tunes and throwing them all together in Ableton, that would probably be horrible for the most part. Yet when you mix in and out of a tune you are layering sounds that have not been properly EQ-ed together - so it doesnt make any sense to me to talk about it in terms of precision mixing/mastering. All most mixers have to keep things clean/smooth/interesting etc is multiband EQ which is a fairly clunky and imperfect tool.
 
outraygeous

outraygeous

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yeah but who cares?

shouldnt you be having a good time and not noticing that the kick drum isnt sitting in the right frequency range?

I used to go out with a mate who would be critiquing every mix the DJ did. I dont care these days, unless they are poop.

People are probably playing 320 MP3s so its all witchcraft anyways
 
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Esp

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SecondLine said:
multiply that by, say ten and you've got a sludgy mess that's got far more layers than the DJ can effectively tweak on the fly
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As I thought I said above, Im talking about mixing one tune into another, not lots of stems from different tunes all mixed together.

SecondLine said:
Saw jackmaster at Corsica playing what I presume to be 320s because they sounded...joyless. great selection, brilliant mixing, no joy
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This is the sort of thing I find strange, why would you presume them to be 320s when it could be a bunch of other reasons to do with the soundsystem as to why there was 'no joy'?
 
Slothrop

Slothrop

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I'm quite excited that we've isolated the 'joy' in music as residing in the tiny artifacts that are lost by high bitrate mp3 compression...
 
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rubberdingyrapids

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i think it should be on the listing info if a dj is playing vinyl or 320s or flacs. waiting for the days when we get excited about djs playing 'exclusive lo-fi all 128kbps set'.
 
outraygeous

outraygeous

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The current responses made me chuckle

True, there are some many links in the chain which could create shit sound. Nothing worse than shit sound in a venue but its probably best not wondering if its the bitrate of the mp3

a few more drinks usually sorts that out.

I listen to all my old garage records and they sound SHIT now after years of pirate radio abuse but I know they will still do the job in the rave.

Same with a dubplate thats played way into the metal. I saw Mickey Finn playing his Arsonist Dubplate. Jumped all over the shop!
 
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