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I don't fight, I run away
just order the Gayest Tits comp
That was meant to say "just ordered". But I guess it works just as well as an imperative.
versh
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Watch a trailer for RA's upcoming film about Terre Thaemlitz · News ⟋ RA
Producer, writer and artist Terre Thaemlitz discusses a selection of objects related to her work with close friends and collaborators.
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Leo
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always with the h/t to @DannyL for turning me on to Tone Glow
https://toneglow.substack.com/p/tone-glow-069-terre-thaemlitz
lots of interesting serious discussion, but I enjoyed the end bit:
And @catalog might enjoy the Writers Panel on "Black Metal 2" that follows the interview.
https://toneglow.substack.com/p/tone-glow-069-terre-thaemlitz
lots of interesting serious discussion, but I enjoyed the end bit:
And @catalog might enjoy the Writers Panel on "Black Metal 2" that follows the interview.
chava
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Hard for me to agree with much of what Terre's saying but still a paradoxical thinker that it's foolish not to listen to
chava
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No time to answer in detail now, but being a family man myself it's hard for me to reconcile with the idea that family is a tyrannical patriarchical system etc etc. The hard-core Marxists materialism irks me as well
I think she means more that the premium placed on the value of family is patriarchial tyranny, rather than family life itself. I don't think he makes that clear - or at least, the interviewer doesn't.
I identified with it, because I think that a lot of the world and culture is geared towards the "goal" of having a family, even though for huge swathes of the population that goal isn't desirable or realistically attainable. I don't see me ever starting a family: I'm a gay man and so it's never going to happen by accident, and between my lack of savings and history of poor mental health periods it's not an active choice I would ever want to make. But when you look at the messages in advertising and consumption, everything is designed for family life. I cannot begin to describe how much food waste I had in the years I lived completely alone, for example. Not to mention queer people's experiences with their own family. An example: I was thrown out for a few days when I was 17 when my stepfather found out about my sexuality, and I only went home "because faaaaaaamily" and you can guarantee if my mother had stayed with him I would have left ASAP and never spoken to them either again. As an adult I've got immediate family I don't speak to and people always tell me I should make up with them, as if family is more important than not allowing yourself to be treated to disrespect and abuse. Good families are great, but bad families can be so destructive, and part of the reason they're able to flourish and cause such damage is because of the value we as a culture place on the concept of family.
I identified with it, because I think that a lot of the world and culture is geared towards the "goal" of having a family, even though for huge swathes of the population that goal isn't desirable or realistically attainable. I don't see me ever starting a family: I'm a gay man and so it's never going to happen by accident, and between my lack of savings and history of poor mental health periods it's not an active choice I would ever want to make. But when you look at the messages in advertising and consumption, everything is designed for family life. I cannot begin to describe how much food waste I had in the years I lived completely alone, for example. Not to mention queer people's experiences with their own family. An example: I was thrown out for a few days when I was 17 when my stepfather found out about my sexuality, and I only went home "because faaaaaaamily" and you can guarantee if my mother had stayed with him I would have left ASAP and never spoken to them either again. As an adult I've got immediate family I don't speak to and people always tell me I should make up with them, as if family is more important than not allowing yourself to be treated to disrespect and abuse. Good families are great, but bad families can be so destructive, and part of the reason they're able to flourish and cause such damage is because of the value we as a culture place on the concept of family.
Murphy
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It’s massively complex (to put it mildly) and I don’t seek to be reductionist. A friend had a vasectomy in his 20’s because he never wanted kids even by accident (his Dad was an abusive cunt and a half). Now he’s a step-Dad to a tough bunch of girls. Gestalt therapy wouldn’t be needed if families were functional, but all too often they aren’t. At the same time, the “family” is pimped just like other societal categories through economic pressures and exploitation
TT misses discussing the homo-normative and specific Americanised notions of family as an indivisible group. Left-leaning politics that verge on socialism don’t have as much traction in the US and the family signifies one of the few forms of acceptable, self-organising collectivism. A case study could be how Sundays are allocated time for collective r&r. Hence, TT’s notions of family are *inherently conservative because of the nation state they’re historically situated in
*certainly not unique to the US, but used as an example here
TT misses discussing the homo-normative and specific Americanised notions of family as an indivisible group. Left-leaning politics that verge on socialism don’t have as much traction in the US and the family signifies one of the few forms of acceptable, self-organising collectivism. A case study could be how Sundays are allocated time for collective r&r. Hence, TT’s notions of family are *inherently conservative because of the nation state they’re historically situated in
*certainly not unique to the US, but used as an example here
versh
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I don't want to agree with Terre's pessimism, but I think I probably do. I don't have the same reasons for thinking that way, but this idea of existing in a state of perpetual violence/chaos and all human society being a nightmare certainly rings true.
The point about people not being taught how to cooperate when they don't like each other struck a chord too. Reminded me of the discussion of empathy the other day. The idea that thought and action must be aligned and you can't do the right thing without feeling the right way.
The point about people not being taught how to cooperate when they don't like each other struck a chord too. Reminded me of the discussion of empathy the other day. The idea that thought and action must be aligned and you can't do the right thing without feeling the right way.
chava
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I've almost finished this and I don't what to say. Terre always giving me conflicting ideas about everything.
His/her anti-natalism is pure David Benatar and it's too much for me and the same time I kinda feel drawn to his nihilism.
Watch it fellow Dissentians, Mark Fell features as well.
His/her anti-natalism is pure David Benatar and it's too much for me and the same time I kinda feel drawn to his nihilism.
Watch it fellow Dissentians, Mark Fell features as well.
versh
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Offline Objects: Terre Thaemlitz Interviewed | The Quietus
As a musician, digital streaming platforms and marketplaces typically don’t allow for much contextual specificity. Releases may be hosted in date order, but there’s little control over who engages, and on what basis, with an album as likely to be sought out directly by a user as suggested to...
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