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Is it controversial because "preference" can be read as implying a choice?
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padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
that's a pretty narrow interpretation
it's a very sketchily sourced allegation from a media outlet with a recent history of perpetuating actively dangerous, baseless nonsense like the Bill Gates corona microchip theory, in a climate where both media outlets and social media platforms have been repeatedly burned for spreading or allowing to spread by inaction dangerous, baseless nonsense. caution is plenty warranted.
also I'd hardly call them shocking. bad, certainly, if accurate, but hardly surprising given prior allegations and the general predictability of powerful guy's son introduces shady businessman to his dad, which also describes some huge percentage of the Trump administration.
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
no arguments about the "sexual preference" thing, that's hella dumb, counterproductive nonsense
there are many, many legitimate reasons to both dislike her and keep her off the SC, no need to make new ones up
there are many, many legitimate reasons to both dislike her and keep her off the SC, no need to make new ones up
sus
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Oh I think it's totally reasonable for media to be wary of being played, and wary of throwing an election after the Comey/Clinton scandal. And also to want to make sure the source is legit, etc. But silence/censorship "until confirmed" is a really weird move. Air a goddam story about how Giuliani is alleging to be in possession of emails, whatever.
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
"orientation" is preferable all things considered, but either is fine
aside: there's also nothing wrong with sexuality being a choice
the idea it's only OK if it's hardwired into yr genes is dumb and retrograde
it made sense tactically when that was the only way to get straight people to admit it was acceptable
but you'd think we could move past it at some point, especially since sexuality is clearly somewhere between hardwired and "choice"
aside: there's also nothing wrong with sexuality being a choice
the idea it's only OK if it's hardwired into yr genes is dumb and retrograde
it made sense tactically when that was the only way to get straight people to admit it was acceptable
but you'd think we could move past it at some point, especially since sexuality is clearly somewhere between hardwired and "choice"
sus
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the mere allegation itself feels like major news: it's Rudy Giuliani claiming to have digital evidence contradicting testimony by a presidential candidate
in total agreement it's claims shaky, but I'm wary of platforms being able to decide a major political story is "fake" and ban all links to it
in total agreement it's claims shaky, but I'm wary of platforms being able to decide a major political story is "fake" and ban all links to it
sus
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if NYT has good reason to believe the evidence is forged, and has been quiet solely because they wanna do due diligence, and later tn/tomorrow they come out with a thorough follow-up, then I take back almost everything above about the response.
but so much shit flew when it came to speculation about Trump's collusion. if there's real evidence of the Biden camp being involved in this kinda thing, it should get treated seriously and not swept under the rug
but so much shit flew when it came to speculation about Trump's collusion. if there's real evidence of the Biden camp being involved in this kinda thing, it should get treated seriously and not swept under the rug
sus
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maybe one thing we can all agree on is that platforms just blocking links to any story about this, given its far from being "disproven" or evaluated, is a little worrying
if there was a policy that all unevaluated, unconfirmed news had a softblock on it, I'd understand, but it feels selective and political
if there was a policy that all unevaluated, unconfirmed news had a softblock on it, I'd understand, but it feels selective and political
padraig (u.s.)
a monkey that will go ape
I mean, "Rudy Giuliani claiming" in 2020 ain't what it was in 2002
it's also Rupert Murdoch and you know where he stands
blocking the link outright seems like a bad call and probably counterproductive in a Streisand Effect way
but after the bullshit last time, and the everything the last few years, I don't really mind if they want to put their thumbs on the scale for Biden a bit
it's not ideal but it falls pretty low on my list of terrible shit massively influential social media network companies are involved in
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
This is exactly what I thought. I admit I'd never heard of this Barrett woman until a few days ago, but surprise surprise, she doesn't sound like good news (saw a clip of her earlier pretending not to understand that voter intimidation is illegal). But this plays so fucking easily into the "Orwellian leftists are literally redefining the language to silence conservatives" narrative. As if that wasn't a sufficiently widespread trope already.
Jezebel magazine has - of course - called ACB's phrase a "slur".
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This seems completely insane to me.
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BBC staff told attending LGBT pride protests in any capacity can breach new impartiality rules
The BBC has issued new guidance for staff on political impartiality
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seen a few tweets suggesting that it's about wanting to seem "impartial" on - no joke - "the trans rights debate"
I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that allowing people to have rights isn't really something that needs to be debated, and the fact that we have to even entertain that notion is a sign of complete failure
I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that allowing people to have rights isn't really something that needs to be debated, and the fact that we have to even entertain that notion is a sign of complete failure
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Slothrop
Tight but Polite
Black Lives Matter as well.
If nothing else, it's a sizeable fuck-off to anyone in a minority who might want to work for the BBC, basically saying that you can choose between having a job and being able to stand up for your own fucking human rights if some right-wing fucknuts decide that your human rights are now up for debate.
If nothing else, it's a sizeable fuck-off to anyone in a minority who might want to work for the BBC, basically saying that you can choose between having a job and being able to stand up for your own fucking human rights if some right-wing fucknuts decide that your human rights are now up for debate.
Mr. Tea
Let's Talk About Ceps
The right wing of the Tory party has wanted to get rid of the BBC for years, because it's "run by loony PC Marxists" or something, so if I were a conspiratorially-minded person I might wonder if this isn't a deliberate ploy to make the corporation as unpopular with liberals and progressives as possible, so that actually nobody is prepared to stick up for it when the government finally axes it in a few years' time and replaces it with some ghastly Fox News clone.This seems completely insane to me.
BBC staff told attending LGBT pride protests in any capacity can breach new impartiality rules
The BBC has issued new guidance for staff on political impartiality
