Russia Today

[luka]

I live in England and for me, life feels really not good. Are we happy here? Are we pleased Corbin lost?

 

[luka]

but that's kind of you Leo I appreciate

 

[Leo]

I get it. doesn't have the same meaning to me, I can divorce it from the symbolism.

 

[IdleRich]

When it's been repeated to the point it loses its wit

Same with so many of these phrases that you hear coined by someone clever and then triumphantly repeated ad nauseum by dimwits on the internet like those henchmen types in the playground echoing the biggest bully. Though - grudgingly - I suppose that was part of Trump's instinctive genius... he (subconsciously?) recognised that a large part of his base were exactly the kind of wannabe bullies who would really hammer home his chosen sobriquets. Sleepy Joe or Lyin' Ted are hardly the height of wit but people often talk about how effective they are.
Now I think about it though, I reckon that Trump's skill wasn't particularly in selecting brilliant insults, but rather in realising how many people there are who love repeating childish insults to win arguments on the internet and who think that the sheer volume of people saying the same thing increases their wittiness and/or validity.

 

[Leo]

that's true, rich. his rallies were basically "greatest hits" shows where he'd often only need to mention his nickname for someone and the crowd would go wild. total playground bullshit.

 

[IdleRich]

But do you know what I mean, people always say that he's really clever with his nicknames or they're really apt, but are they? I mean Sleepy Joe is not that brilliant, but where I think there IS a kind of animal cunning is that he really recognises that a lot of followers are basically bullies, or wannabe bullies, and giving them a place to all gang up together and a target that they can gang up against and an insult that as a gang that they can chant together, is giving them the opportunity to be the bully... perhaps for the first time ever in their lives, perhaps as they dimly remember being at school. And they love to do this with the blessing of Trump the biggest bully of all.
I always think that you can tell Trump is a bully (not just by his track record which confirms it but) by the way he sneers at people an encourages pile-ons and, well, just the way he is.

 

[version]

I live in England and for me, life feels really not good. Are we happy here? Are we pleased Corbin lost?

Jacob Rees-Mogg recently accused UNICEF of "playing politics" and said they should be ashamed of themselves because they helped feed poor people in Britain. That's where we're at now...

I read a pretty eye opening comment in response to that clip from someone claiming to run a charity in the Midlands.

I have to emphasize that current levels of poverty are really bad, and I mean bad beyond what is imaginable.

I run a charity in the midlands and to be frank I have seen some **** , I have seen a man go without food for the best part of two weeks because he had severe autism and couldn't fill out the benefit forms. I have seen a young lass cutting into herself like she was trying to turn herself into a packet of stir fry chicken because the benefit office declared that she was a danger, and the subsequent cruelty of that set off a self mutilation episode. Why? Because she cuts herself to deal with the pain of a brutal genetic condition. Despite weighing about five stone and never been violent to anything or anyone. The idea that she cuts herself frightened some weenies in the benefit office. And the subsequent cruelty of that, set off a self mutilation episode.

I have seen an elderly veteran so covered in sores and filth he was partly stuck to his chair.

I have seen children stuff food into their mouths like when you put a dogs bowl out.

I have seen the aftermath of a schizophrenic self immolating, after years of little to no treatment.

I have seen a elderly man weep like a child, because I was the first person in years to sit and have a conversation with him.

There is this idea among the general population, that yes they may be poverty in Britain but not you know like african poverty or real poverty. They may be poor but isn't they foodbanks or the NHS? But understand this in the dark places of Britain things are happening and people are suffering in ways beyond easy human comprehension. Words like decency or dignity have ceased to have any meaning or grip on the reality that some people face, instead there is just a quiet continuous horror.

As such its not a matter of political embarrassment, its a realization of the human catastrophe that has been taking place beyond the notice of polite society.