Master and Commander: Far side of the world (2003)

[catalog]

I think you have a correct reading lads, I'm proud of you

 

[catalog]

There's a skill on this board, an ability to smell shit, when shit smells.

That's why it's good.

 

[sus]

no you have to call me a bumlicker now

 

[catalog]

No it was poor, a reach. I didn't even understand, I've not read a single one of the books. I wad just stirring shit. You called me. Fair dilos

 

[Corpsey]

Obviously I don't think (this is the film I'm talking about) aubrey and maturing actually fancy each other but part of the film's appeal (as with many such films about war) is it provides an 'acceptable' imaginative setting for men to depend upon each other, cry for each other, practically snog each others faces off because they love standing on the top sail so fucking much etc

 

[Corpsey]

I guess LOTR is often criticised for its lack of female characters—fair enough, I suppose, but maybe it's part of their appeal, too, to show men bonding in battle etc... (Although I know plenty of women love LOTR)

Men (i might say 'straight men' but I can't speak to that) aren't able to express these feelings IRL, most of the time—for fear of being seen as effeminate/gay

 

[Corpsey]

We all want to kiss each other on the forehead, but we can only do it if one of us has just been taken out with 12 arrows

 

[version]

We all want to kiss each other on the forehead, but we can only do it if one of us has just been taken out with 12 arrows

This is why Luke's always fantasising about killing you. He loves you so much he wants to horrifically murder you so he can finally kiss you on the forehead.

 

[Corpsey]

Exactly, men's love for each other manifests as vicious horseplay

 

[catalog]

But I just thought of something. So any of yoj have any close female friends?

 

[0bleak]

Yes, but sadly had a falling out recently.
I've tried to communicate with her that I've been going through the most difficult time in my life in the half year+, but I guess when her brother died she wanted more support from me, I guess?
I've also had fallings out with her in the past, but this feels like it might be the last nail.

 

[IdleRich]

But I just thought of something. So any of yoj have any close female friends

What's really worrying to me is there are a load of people in this thread who don't have any close female friends but who also think it's revelatory to have a close male friend.

I guess they all have a load of transgender or intersex mates they talk to when they need a hug.

 

[IdleRich]

Cos the alternative is too depressing to even denote

 

[catalog]

I do stand by jafas reading of alien tho. As in, it's not the only reading, but it's an interesting reading.

I was watching another film recently, and you can make the same argument for it (that it's about the black experience in America, specifically the nuances of slavery).

One of the main characters wears all white in it, throughout.

It's Jurassic Park.

In this case, the velociraptors are from the field.

 

[catalog]

Catalog you're very smart and have a good aesthetic eye/ear but your taste in ideology needs work. It's a nose thing. This and the Arthur Jafa quote on Alien you posted both have a faint reek of self-involved parochial projection. A refusal to appreciate the other as other that (ironically) advertises itself as woke

You are older and wiser than me by many years catalog so I cede to your authority but I have been very proximate to the people who spread these ideas Ive been exposed to their ideologies so my sense of smell is excellent

Tell me more about this smell of ideology please

 

[IdleRich]

I do stand by jafas reading of alien tho. As in, it's not the only reading, but it's an interesting reading.

I was watching another film recently, and you can make the same argument for it (that it's about the black experience in America, specifically the nuances of slavery).

One of the main characters wears all white in it, throughout.

It's Jurassic Park.

In this case, the velociraptors are from the field.

Don't they take the piss out of this sort of thing in one of those Kevin Smith's films? Darth Vader represents fear of the black other and when he takes off his mask it's cos all black people secretly want to be white... or something.

 

[catalog]

Don't they take the piss out of this sort of thing in one of those Kevin Smith's films? Darth Vader represents fear of the black other and when he takes off his mask it's cos all black people secretly want to be white... or something.

I don't recall that one specifically, but theres a lot of star wars references all over his films yea

 

[IdleRich]

 

[version]

"What's a Nubian?"
"Shut the fuck up!"